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From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
To: Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>, Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
	Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@amd.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	James Clark <james.clark@arm.com>,
	Kajol Jain <kjain@linux.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Richter <tmricht@linux.ibm.com>,
	Atish Patra <atishp@atishpatra.org>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>,
	Mingwei Zhang <mizhang@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/8] perf tools: Detect missing kernel features properly
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2024 14:32:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZvxqcEIVELw9Uets@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP-5=fVrptOSOK+sBo0rHR1QWQ0i1WigMaFRy=So-HATKr=R9A@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 01, 2024 at 10:53:02AM -0700, Ian Rogers wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 5:20 PM Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > The evsel__detect_missing_features() is to check if the attributes of
> > the evsel is supported or not.  But it checks the attribute based on the
> > given evsel, it might miss something if the attr doesn't have the bit or
> > give incorrect results if the event is special.
> >
> > Also it maintains the order of the feature that was added to the kernel
> > which means it can assume older features should be supported once it
> > detects the current feature is working.  To minimized the confusion and
> > to accurately check the kernel features, I think it's better to use a
> > software event and go through all the features at once.
> >
> > Also make the function static since it's only used in evsel.c.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
> > ---
> >  tools/perf/util/evsel.c | 345 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----------
> >  tools/perf/util/evsel.h |   1 -
> >  2 files changed, 249 insertions(+), 97 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/tools/perf/util/evsel.c b/tools/perf/util/evsel.c
> > index f202d28147d62a44..32e30c293d0c6198 100644
> > --- a/tools/perf/util/evsel.c
> > +++ b/tools/perf/util/evsel.c
> > @@ -20,6 +20,7 @@
> >  #include <linux/zalloc.h>
> >  #include <sys/ioctl.h>
> >  #include <sys/resource.h>
> > +#include <sys/syscall.h>
> >  #include <sys/types.h>
> >  #include <dirent.h>
> >  #include <stdlib.h>
> > @@ -2150,120 +2151,272 @@ int evsel__prepare_open(struct evsel *evsel, struct perf_cpu_map *cpus,
> >         return err;
> >  }
> >
> > -bool evsel__detect_missing_features(struct evsel *evsel)
> > +static bool has_attr_feature(struct perf_event_attr *attr, unsigned long flags)
> >  {
> > +       int fd = syscall(SYS_perf_event_open, attr, /*pid=*/0, /*cpu=*/-1,
> > +                        /*group_fd=*/-1, flags);
> > +       close(fd);
> > +
> > +       if (fd < 0) {
> > +               attr->exclude_kernel = 1;
> > +
> > +               fd = syscall(SYS_perf_event_open, attr, /*pid=*/0, /*cpu=*/-1,
> > +                            /*group_fd=*/-1, flags);
> > +               close(fd);
> > +       }
> > +
> > +       if (fd < 0) {
> > +               attr->exclude_hv = 1;
> > +
> > +               fd = syscall(SYS_perf_event_open, attr, /*pid=*/0, /*cpu=*/-1,
> > +                            /*group_fd=*/-1, flags);
> > +               close(fd);
> > +       }
> > +
> > +       if (fd < 0) {
> > +               attr->exclude_guest = 1;
> > +
> > +               fd = syscall(SYS_perf_event_open, attr, /*pid=*/0, /*cpu=*/-1,
> > +                            /*group_fd=*/-1, flags);
> > +               close(fd);
> > +       }
> > +
> > +       attr->exclude_kernel = 0;
> > +       attr->exclude_guest = 0;
> > +       attr->exclude_hv = 0;
> > +
> > +       return fd >= 0;
> > +}
> > +
> > +static void evsel__detect_missing_brstack_features(struct evsel *evsel)
> 
> In the future could other PMU specific unsupported features be added
> not just brstack? Perhaps evsel__detect_missing_pmu_features would
> better capture that.

Yep, sounds reasonable.  I think we can add that if we have another
thing to check.

> 
> > +{
> > +       static bool detection_done = false;
> > +       struct perf_event_attr attr = {
> > +               .type = evsel->core.attr.type,
> > +               .config = evsel->core.attr.config,
> > +               .disabled = 1,
> > +               .sample_type = PERF_SAMPLE_BRANCH_STACK,
> > +               .sample_period = 1000,
> > +       };
> > +       int old_errno;
> > +
> > +       if (detection_done)
> > +               return;
> > +
> > +       old_errno = errno;
> > +
> >         /*
> >          * Must probe features in the order they were added to the
> > -        * perf_event_attr interface.
> > +        * perf_event_attr interface.  These are PMU specific limitation
> > +        * so we can detect with the given hardware event and stop on the
> > +        * first one succeeded.
> >          */
> > -       if (!perf_missing_features.branch_counters &&
> > -           (evsel->core.attr.branch_sample_type & PERF_SAMPLE_BRANCH_COUNTERS)) {
> > -               perf_missing_features.branch_counters = true;
> > -               pr_debug2("switching off branch counters support\n");
> > -               return true;
> > -       } else if (!perf_missing_features.read_lost &&
> > -           (evsel->core.attr.read_format & PERF_FORMAT_LOST)) {
> > -               perf_missing_features.read_lost = true;
> > -               pr_debug2("switching off PERF_FORMAT_LOST support\n");
> > +
> > +       /* Please add new feature detection here. */
> > +
> > +       attr.branch_sample_type = PERF_SAMPLE_BRANCH_COUNTERS;
> > +       if (has_attr_feature(&attr, /*flags=*/0))
> > +               goto found;
> > +       perf_missing_features.branch_counters = true;
> 
> It feels like these global variables should be part of the PMU state.
> There is already perf_pmu.missing_features.

You're right.  But I think this is kinda global feature unless we have
different PMUs that provide different branch sampling capability.  It's
just the feature test requires a specific PMU and event.  But it'd be
better putting this into struct perf_pmu later.

Kan, can you confirm if Intel hybrid systems have the same branch stack
sampling capabilities on both cores?

Thanks,
Namhyung

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-01 21:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-01  0:20 [PATCHSET 0/8] perf tools: Do not set attr.exclude_guest by default (v4) Namhyung Kim
2024-10-01  0:20 ` [PATCH 1/8] perf tools: Add fallback for exclude_guest Namhyung Kim
2024-10-01 17:41   ` Ian Rogers
2024-10-01  0:20 ` [PATCH 2/8] perf tools: Don't set attr.exclude_guest by default Namhyung Kim
2024-10-01 17:43   ` Ian Rogers
2024-10-01  0:20 ` [PATCH 3/8] perf tools: Simplify evsel__add_modifier() Namhyung Kim
2024-10-01 17:44   ` Ian Rogers
2024-10-01  0:20 ` [PATCH 4/8] perf tools: Do not set exclude_guest for precise_ip Namhyung Kim
2024-10-01 17:46   ` Ian Rogers
2024-10-01  0:20 ` [PATCH 5/8] perf tools: Detect missing kernel features properly Namhyung Kim
2024-10-01 17:53   ` Ian Rogers
2024-10-01 21:32     ` Namhyung Kim [this message]
2024-10-15  4:19   ` Ravi Bangoria
2024-10-16  4:49     ` Namhyung Kim
2024-10-01  0:20 ` [PATCH 6/8] perf tools: Move x86__is_amd_cpu() to util/env.c Namhyung Kim
2024-10-01 16:03   ` Liang, Kan
2024-10-01 22:39     ` Namhyung Kim
2024-10-01  0:20 ` [PATCH 7/8] perf tools: Check fallback error and order Namhyung Kim
2024-10-01 18:00   ` Ian Rogers
2024-10-01 21:36     ` Namhyung Kim
2024-10-01 22:21       ` Ian Rogers
2024-10-03 17:06         ` Namhyung Kim
2024-10-03 17:32           ` Ian Rogers
2024-10-03 22:38             ` Namhyung Kim
2024-10-14 19:22               ` Namhyung Kim
2024-10-15  4:21                 ` Ravi Bangoria
2024-10-16  4:33                   ` Namhyung Kim
2024-10-16  4:47                 ` Ian Rogers
2024-10-01  0:20 ` [PATCH 8/8] perf record: Just use "cycles:P" as the default event Namhyung Kim
2024-10-01 18:00   ` Ian Rogers
2024-10-01 17:46 ` [PATCHSET 0/8] perf tools: Do not set attr.exclude_guest by default (v4) Liang, Kan
2024-10-01 21:19   ` Namhyung Kim
2024-10-02  9:49 ` James Clark
2024-10-02 18:29   ` Namhyung Kim
2024-10-04 15:40     ` James Clark
2024-10-04 19:17       ` Namhyung Kim
2024-10-15  4:25 ` Ravi Bangoria
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-09-04  6:41 [RFC/PATCHSET 0/8] perf tools: Do not set attr.exclude_guest by default (v2) Namhyung Kim
2024-09-04  6:41 ` [PATCH 5/8] perf tools: Detect missing kernel features properly Namhyung Kim

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