From: Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Michael Kelley <mhklinux@outlook.com>,
Stuart Hayes <stuart.w.hayes@gmail.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Martin Belanger <Martin.Belanger@dell.com>,
Oliver O'Halloran <oohall@gmail.com>,
Daniel Wagner <dwagner@suse.de>, Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
David Jeffery <djeffery@redhat.com>,
Jeremy Allison <jallison@ciq.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
"linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>,
Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@seimens.com>,
Bert Karwatzki <spasswolf@web.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 0/4] shut down devices asynchronously
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2024 11:14:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZxInC1U7WiB7FNkJ@wunner.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2024101809-granola-coat-9a1d@gregkh>
On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 07:49:51AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 03:26:05AM +0000, Michael Kelley wrote:
> > In the process, the workqueue code spins up additional worker threads
> > to handle the load. On the Hyper-V VM, 210 to 230 new kernel
> > threads are created during device_shutdown(), depending on the
> > timing. On the Pi 5, 253 are created. The max for this workqueue is
> > WQ_DFL_ACTIVE (256).
[...]
> I don't think we can put this type of load on all systems just to handle
> one specific type of "bad" hardware that takes long periods of time to
> shutdown, sorry.
Parallelizing shutdown means shorter reboot times, less downtime,
less cost for CSPs.
Modern servers (e.g. Sierra Forest with 288 cores) should handle
this load easily and may see significant benefits from parallelization.
Perhaps a solution is to cap async shutdown based on the number of cores,
but always use async for certain device classes (e.g. nvme_subsys_class)?
Thanks,
Lukas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-18 9:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-09 17:57 [PATCH v9 0/4] shut down devices asynchronously Stuart Hayes
2024-10-09 17:57 ` [PATCH v9 1/4] driver core: don't always lock parent in shutdown Stuart Hayes
2024-10-09 17:57 ` [PATCH v9 2/4] driver core: separate function to shutdown one device Stuart Hayes
2024-10-09 17:57 ` [PATCH v9 3/4] driver core: shut down devices asynchronously Stuart Hayes
2024-10-09 17:57 ` [PATCH v9 4/4] nvme-pci: Make driver prefer asynchronous shutdown Stuart Hayes
2024-10-11 4:22 ` [PATCH v9 0/4] shut down devices asynchronously Michael Kelley
2024-10-11 15:52 ` Laurence Oberman
2024-10-18 3:26 ` Michael Kelley
2024-10-18 5:49 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-10-18 9:14 ` Lukas Wunner [this message]
2024-10-18 9:37 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-10-19 0:27 ` stuart hayes
2024-10-20 0:24 ` Michael Kelley
2024-10-29 15:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-30 3:06 ` [PATCH] driver core: optimize async device shutdown Sultan Alsawaf
2025-01-30 17:12 ` [PATCH v2] " Sultan Alsawaf
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