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From: Marco Elver <elver@google.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	kasan-dev@googlegroups.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kcsan, seqlock: Support seqcount_latch_t
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2024 21:49:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZyFKUU1LpFfLrVXb@elver.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241029134641.GR9767@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 02:46PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 02:05:38PM +0100, Marco Elver wrote:
> > On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 at 12:49, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 09:36:29AM +0100, Marco Elver wrote:
> > > > Reviewing current raw_write_seqcount_latch() callers, the most common
> > > > patterns involve only few memory accesses, either a single plain C
> > > > assignment, or memcpy;
> > >
> > > Then I assume you've encountered latch_tree_{insert,erase}() in your
> > > travels, right?
> > 
> > Oops. That once certainly exceeds the "8 memory accesses".
> > 
> > > Also, I note that update_clock_read_data() seems to do things
> > > 'backwards' and will completely elide your proposed annotation.
> > 
> > Hmm, for the first access, yes. This particular oddity could be
> > "fixed" by surrounding the accesses by
> > kcsan_nestable_atomic_begin/end(). I don't know if it warrants adding
> > a raw_write_seqcount_latch_begin().
> > 
> > Preferences?
> 
> I *think* it is doable to flip it around to the 'normal' order, but
> given I've been near cross-eyed with a head-ache these past two days,
> I'm not going to attempt a patch for you, since I'm bound to get it
> wrong :/

Something like this?

------ >8 ------

Author: Marco Elver <elver@google.com>
Date:   Tue Oct 29 21:16:21 2024 +0100

    time/sched_clock: Swap update_clock_read_data() latch writes
    
    Swap the writes to the odd and even copies to make the writer critical
    section look like all other seqcount_latch writers.
    
    With that, we can also add the raw_write_seqcount_latch_end() to clearly
    denote the end of the writer section.
    
    Signed-off-by: Marco Elver <elver@google.com>

diff --git a/kernel/time/sched_clock.c b/kernel/time/sched_clock.c
index 68d6c1190ac7..311c90a0e86e 100644
--- a/kernel/time/sched_clock.c
+++ b/kernel/time/sched_clock.c
@@ -119,9 +119,6 @@ unsigned long long notrace sched_clock(void)
  */
 static void update_clock_read_data(struct clock_read_data *rd)
 {
-	/* update the backup (odd) copy with the new data */
-	cd.read_data[1] = *rd;
-
 	/* steer readers towards the odd copy */
 	raw_write_seqcount_latch(&cd.seq);
 
@@ -130,6 +127,11 @@ static void update_clock_read_data(struct clock_read_data *rd)
 
 	/* switch readers back to the even copy */
 	raw_write_seqcount_latch(&cd.seq);
+
+	/* update the backup (odd) copy with the new data */
+	cd.read_data[1] = *rd;
+
+	raw_write_seqcount_latch_end(&cd.seq);
 }
 
 /*

------ >8 ------

I also noticed your d16317de9b41 ("seqlock/latch: Provide
raw_read_seqcount_latch_retry()") to get rid of explicit instrumentation
in noinstr.

Not sure how to resolve that. We have that objtool support to erase
calls in noinstr code (is_profiling_func), but that's x86 only.

I could also make kcsan_atomic_next(0) noinstr compatible by checking if
the ret IP is in noinstr, and immediately return if it is.

Preferences?

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-29 20:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-29  8:36 [PATCH] kcsan, seqlock: Support seqcount_latch_t Marco Elver
2024-10-29 11:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-29 13:05   ` Marco Elver
2024-10-29 13:46     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-29 20:49       ` Marco Elver [this message]
2024-10-30 20:48         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-31  7:00           ` Marco Elver
2024-10-31  9:14             ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-31  9:20           ` Peter Zijlstra

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