From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: "Joel Fernandes (Google)" <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/3] tick-sched: Remove last_tick and calculate next tick from now
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 14:56:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZzNeeCvSFL7OzHKF@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874j4co98w.ffs@tglx>
Le Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 02:46:23PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner a écrit :
> On Tue, Nov 12 2024 at 00:43, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > Le Fri, Nov 08, 2024 at 05:48:34PM +0000, Joel Fernandes (Google) a écrit :
>
> >> During tick restart, we use last_tick and forward it past now.
> >>
> >> Since we are forwarding past now, we can simply use now as a reference
> >> instead of last_tick. This patch removes last_tick and does so.
> >>
> >> This patch potentially does more mul/imul than the existing code,
> >> as sometimes forwarding past now need not be done if last_tick > now.
> >> However, the patch is a cleanup which reduces LOC and reduces the size
> >> of struct tick_sched.
>
> May I politely ask you to read and follow the Documentation
> vs. changelogs?
>
> https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/maintainer-tip.html#changelog
>
> Also
>
> git grep 'This patch' Documentation/process
>
> might give you a hint.
>
> >> - /* Forward the time to expire in the future */
> >> - hrtimer_forward(&ts->sched_timer, now, TICK_NSEC);
> >> + hrtimer_set_expires(&ts->sched_timer, DIV_ROUND_UP_ULL(now, TICK_NSEC) * TICK_NSEC);
>
> How is a division and multiplication in this hotpath helpful? That's
> awfully slow on 32-bit machines and pointless on 64-bit too.
>
> Using now is also wrong as it breaks the sched_skew_tick distribution by
> aligning the tick on all CPUs again.
>
> IOW, this "cleanup" is making things worse.
>
> > We don't want to rewrite hrtimer_forward() but, after all, the current expiry is
> > enough a relevant information.
> >
> > How about just this? It's worth it as it now forwards after the real last programmed
> > tick, which should be close enough from @now with a delta below TICK_NSEC, or even
> > better @now is below the expiry. Therefore it should resume as just a no-op
> > or at worst an addition within hrtimer_forward():
> >
> > diff --git a/kernel/time/tick-sched.c b/kernel/time/tick-sched.c
> > index 753a184c7090..ffd0c026a248 100644
> > --- a/kernel/time/tick-sched.c
> > +++ b/kernel/time/tick-sched.c
> > @@ -838,7 +838,6 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(get_cpu_iowait_time_us);
> > static void tick_nohz_restart(struct tick_sched *ts, ktime_t now)
> > {
> > hrtimer_cancel(&ts->sched_timer);
> > - hrtimer_set_expires(&ts->sched_timer, ts->last_tick);
> >
> > /* Forward the time to expire in the future */
> > hrtimer_forward(&ts->sched_timer, now, TICK_NSEC);
>
> That's just wrong. ts->sched_timer.expires contains a tick in the
> future. If tick_nohz_stop_tick() set it to 10 ticks in the future and
> the CPU goes out of idle due to a device interrupt before the timer
> expires, then hrtimer_forward() will do nothing because expires is ahead
> of now.
>
> Which means the CPU is not idle and has no tick until the delayed tick
> which was set by tick_nohz_stop_tick() expires. Not really correct.
Bah! Yes of course...
>
> Thanks,
>
> tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-12 13:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-08 17:48 [RFC 0/3] tick-sched cleanups Joel Fernandes (Google)
2024-11-08 17:48 ` [RFC 1/3] tick-sched: Remove last_tick and calculate next tick from now Joel Fernandes (Google)
2024-11-11 23:43 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-12 13:46 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-11-12 13:56 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2024-11-12 18:20 ` Joel Fernandes
2024-11-12 18:33 ` Joel Fernandes
2024-11-13 12:40 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-13 21:40 ` Joel Fernandes
2024-11-08 17:48 ` [RFC 2/3] tick-sched: Keep tick on if hrtimer is due imminently Joel Fernandes (Google)
2024-11-11 12:37 ` Christian Loehle
2024-11-11 15:56 ` Joel Fernandes
2024-11-11 16:55 ` Christian Loehle
2024-11-11 17:17 ` Joel Fernandes
2024-11-08 17:48 ` [RFC 3/3] tick-sched: Replace jiffie readout with idle_entrytime Joel Fernandes (Google)
2024-11-10 22:55 ` Joel Fernandes
2024-11-12 14:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-11-13 21:46 ` Joel Fernandes
2024-11-11 22:25 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-13 22:39 ` Joel Fernandes
2024-11-12 14:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-11-13 22:18 ` Joel Fernandes
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