From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/3] tick-sched: Remove last_tick and calculate next tick from now
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2024 13:40:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZzSeMaV9676NiN1_@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241112183330.GA2061573@google.com>
Le Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 06:33:30PM +0000, Joel Fernandes a écrit :
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 12:43:58AM +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > > @@ -837,11 +837,9 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(get_cpu_iowait_time_us);
> > >
> > > static void tick_nohz_restart(struct tick_sched *ts, ktime_t now)
> > > {
> > > + /* Set the time to expire on the next tick and not some far away future. */
> > > hrtimer_cancel(&ts->sched_timer);
> > > - hrtimer_set_expires(&ts->sched_timer, ts->last_tick);
> > > -
> > > - /* Forward the time to expire in the future */
> > > - hrtimer_forward(&ts->sched_timer, now, TICK_NSEC);
> > > + hrtimer_set_expires(&ts->sched_timer, DIV_ROUND_UP_ULL(now, TICK_NSEC) * TICK_NSEC);
> >
> > We don't want to rewrite hrtimer_forward() but, after all, the current expiry is
> > enough a relevant information.
>
> Thanks, do you envision any way we can get past the sched_skew_tick issue
> Thomas mentioned, if we still want to do something like this patch?
First, do we still want to do something like this patch? :-)
>
> > How about just this? It's worth it as it now forwards after the real last programmed
> > tick, which should be close enough from @now with a delta below TICK_NSEC, or even
> > better @now is below the expiry. Therefore it should resume as just a no-op
> > or at worst an addition within hrtimer_forward():
> >
> > diff --git a/kernel/time/tick-sched.c b/kernel/time/tick-sched.c
> > index 753a184c7090..ffd0c026a248 100644
> > --- a/kernel/time/tick-sched.c
> > +++ b/kernel/time/tick-sched.c
> > @@ -838,7 +838,6 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(get_cpu_iowait_time_us);
> > static void tick_nohz_restart(struct tick_sched *ts, ktime_t now)
> > {
> > hrtimer_cancel(&ts->sched_timer);
> > - hrtimer_set_expires(&ts->sched_timer, ts->last_tick);
> >
> > /* Forward the time to expire in the future */
> > hrtimer_forward(&ts->sched_timer, now, TICK_NSEC);
>
> For completeness, as we discussed on other thread and Thomas mentioned, we
> break code if doing this.
Right!
>
> > As for removing last_tick, I think it's a precious debugging information. But
> > it's lagging behind the record of the first time only the tick got stopped within
> > the last trip to idle. So it could become this instead:
> >
> > diff --git a/kernel/time/tick-sched.c b/kernel/time/tick-sched.c
> > index 753a184c7090..af013f7733b2 100644
> > --- a/kernel/time/tick-sched.c
> > +++ b/kernel/time/tick-sched.c
> > @@ -1042,12 +1041,11 @@ static void tick_nohz_stop_tick(struct tick_sched *ts, int cpu)
> > if (!tick_sched_flag_test(ts, TS_FLAG_STOPPED)) {
> > calc_load_nohz_start();
> > quiet_vmstat();
> > -
> > - ts->last_tick = hrtimer_get_expires(&ts->sched_timer);
> > tick_sched_flag_set(ts, TS_FLAG_STOPPED);
> > trace_tick_stop(1, TICK_DEP_MASK_NONE);
> > }
> >
> > + ts->last_tick = hrtimer_get_expires(&ts->sched_timer);
> > ts->next_tick = expires;
>
> Are you suggesting we roll this part of your diff into a new patch (to
> improve debug)? I could do that with attribution to you. But I guess I don't
> understand this particular part of your diff.
No there is no point in doing this after all. I was trying to find a point for
this ->last_tick existence but there was one I overlooked like Thomas explained.
> If the tick was already stopped, how does
> hrtimer_get_expires(&ts->sched_timer) change since the last time the tick was
> stopped? ->last_tick should be set only when the tick was last running and a
> stop was attempted? Otherwise your diff might set ->last_tick well into the
> future after the tick was already stopped, AFAICS.
Right.
Thanks.
>
> thanks,
>
> - Joel
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-13 12:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-08 17:48 [RFC 0/3] tick-sched cleanups Joel Fernandes (Google)
2024-11-08 17:48 ` [RFC 1/3] tick-sched: Remove last_tick and calculate next tick from now Joel Fernandes (Google)
2024-11-11 23:43 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-12 13:46 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-11-12 13:56 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-12 18:20 ` Joel Fernandes
2024-11-12 18:33 ` Joel Fernandes
2024-11-13 12:40 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2024-11-13 21:40 ` Joel Fernandes
2024-11-08 17:48 ` [RFC 2/3] tick-sched: Keep tick on if hrtimer is due imminently Joel Fernandes (Google)
2024-11-11 12:37 ` Christian Loehle
2024-11-11 15:56 ` Joel Fernandes
2024-11-11 16:55 ` Christian Loehle
2024-11-11 17:17 ` Joel Fernandes
2024-11-08 17:48 ` [RFC 3/3] tick-sched: Replace jiffie readout with idle_entrytime Joel Fernandes (Google)
2024-11-10 22:55 ` Joel Fernandes
2024-11-12 14:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-11-13 21:46 ` Joel Fernandes
2024-11-11 22:25 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-13 22:39 ` Joel Fernandes
2024-11-12 14:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-11-13 22:18 ` Joel Fernandes
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