From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Chris Down <chris@chrisdown.name>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
Tony Lindgren <tony.lindgren@linux.intel.com>,
kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 10/11] printk: Deprecate the kernel.printk sysctl interface
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:25:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZzYkkTHJFNnvJBh0@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <993d978d4a59dd370ac39c6c24c9b72c11f4dc74.1730133890.git.chris@chrisdown.name>
On Mon 2024-10-28 16:45:59, Chris Down wrote:
> The kernel.printk sysctl interface is deprecated in favour of more
> granular and clearer sysctl interfaces for controlling loglevels, namely
> kernel.console_loglevel and kernel.default_message_loglevel.
>
> kernel.printk has a number of fairly significant usability problems:
>
> - It takes four values in a specific order, which is not intuitive.
> Speaking from personal experience, even people working on printk
> sometimes need to look up the order of these values, which doesn't
> suggest much in the way of perspicuity.
> - There is no validation on the input values, so users can set them to
> invalid or nonsensical values without receiving any errors or
> warnings. This can lead to unpredictable behaviour.
> - One of the four values, default_console_loglevel, is not used in the
> kernel (see below), making it redundant and potentially confusing.
> - Overall, the interface is complex, hard to understand, and combines
> multiple controls into a single sysctl, which is not ideal. It should
> be separated into distinct controls for clarity.
>
> Setting kernel.printk now calls printk_sysctl_deprecated, which emits a
> pr_warn. The warning informs users about the deprecation and suggests
> using the new sysctl interfaces instead.
>
> By deprecating kernel.printk, we aim to:
>
> - Encourage users to adopt the new, dedicated sysctl interfaces
> (kernel.console_loglevel and kernel.default_message_loglevel), which
> are more straightforward and easier to understand.
> - Improve input validation and error handling, ensuring that users
> receive appropriate feedback when setting invalid values.
> - Simplify the configuration of loglevels by exposing only the controls
> that are necessary and relevant.
>
> --- a/kernel/printk/sysctl.c
> +++ b/kernel/printk/sysctl.c
> @@ -7,6 +7,7 @@
> #include <linux/printk.h>
> #include <linux/capability.h>
> #include <linux/ratelimit.h>
> +#include <linux/console.h>
> #include "internal.h"
>
> static const int ten_thousand = 10000;
> @@ -46,13 +47,24 @@ static int printk_console_loglevel(const struct ctl_table *table, int write,
> return 0;
> }
>
> +static int printk_sysctl_deprecated(const struct ctl_table *table, int write,
> + void *buffer, size_t *lenp, loff_t *ppos)
> +{
> + int res = proc_dointvec(table, write, buffer, lenp, ppos);
> +
> + if (write)
> + pr_warn_once("printk: The kernel.printk sysctl is deprecated. Consider using kernel.console_loglevel or kernel.default_message_loglevel instead.\n");
> +
> + return res;
> +}
> +
> static struct ctl_table printk_sysctls[] = {
> {
> .procname = "printk",
> .data = &console_loglevel,
> .maxlen = 4*sizeof(int),
> .mode = 0644,
> - .proc_handler = proc_dointvec,
> + .proc_handler = printk_sysctl_deprecated,
I would prefer to follow the existing naming scheme for
custom modifications of proc_dointvec() and call it
"proc_dointvec_printk_deprecated".
> },
> {
> .procname = "printk_ratelimit",
With this cosmetic change:
Reviewed-by: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Best Regards,
Petr
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-14 16:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-28 16:45 [PATCH v6 00/11] printk: console: Per-console loglevels Chris Down
2024-10-28 16:45 ` [PATCH v6 01/11] printk: Avoid delaying messages that aren't solicited by any console Chris Down
2024-10-28 16:45 ` [PATCH v6 02/11] printk: Use struct console for suppression and extended console state Chris Down
2024-11-08 9:57 ` Petr Mladek
2024-11-15 8:30 ` John Ogness
2024-11-20 4:17 ` Chris Down
2024-11-20 12:03 ` Petr Mladek
2024-10-28 16:45 ` [PATCH v6 03/11] printk: console: Implement core per-console loglevel infrastructure Chris Down
2024-11-08 16:10 ` Petr Mladek
2024-11-12 10:25 ` Petr Mladek
2024-11-14 16:51 ` Petr Mladek
2024-10-28 16:45 ` [PATCH v6 04/11] printk: Support toggling per-console loglevel via syslog() and cmdline Chris Down
2024-11-12 10:56 ` Conflict with FORCE_CON: " Petr Mladek
2024-11-14 19:28 ` Chris Down
2024-11-15 11:41 ` Petr Mladek
2024-11-12 12:59 ` Petr Mladek
2024-11-14 17:14 ` syslog warning: was: " Petr Mladek
2024-11-14 18:53 ` Chris Down
2024-11-15 11:36 ` Petr Mladek
2024-10-28 16:45 ` [PATCH v6 05/11] MAINTAINERS: Mark printk-basics.rst as owned by printk subsystem Chris Down
2024-10-28 23:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-28 23:52 ` Chris Down
2024-11-12 13:00 ` Petr Mladek
2024-10-28 16:45 ` [PATCH v6 06/11] printk: console: Introduce sysfs interface for per-console loglevels Chris Down
2024-11-13 15:58 ` Petr Mladek
2024-11-13 15:59 ` register_device: was: " Petr Mladek
2024-11-14 18:41 ` Chris Down
2024-11-15 4:08 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-11-18 15:19 ` Petr Mladek
2024-11-15 4:20 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-11-15 14:09 ` Petr Mladek
2024-11-20 5:01 ` Chris Down
2024-11-20 8:43 ` John Ogness
2024-11-20 14:54 ` Petr Mladek
2024-11-20 15:29 ` John Ogness
2024-11-20 14:45 ` Petr Mladek
2025-01-10 10:27 ` Joel Granados
2025-01-15 10:31 ` Petr Mladek
2024-10-28 16:45 ` [PATCH v6 07/11] printk: Constrain hardware-addressed console checks to name position Chris Down
2024-10-29 8:26 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-11-13 16:11 ` Petr Mladek
2024-10-28 16:45 ` [PATCH v6 08/11] printk: Support setting initial console loglevel via console= on cmdline Chris Down
2024-11-14 9:11 ` Petr Mladek
2024-10-28 16:45 ` [PATCH v6 09/11] printk: Add sysctl interface to set global loglevels Chris Down
2024-11-14 16:21 ` Petr Mladek
2025-01-10 10:09 ` Joel Granados
2024-10-28 16:45 ` [PATCH v6 10/11] printk: Deprecate the kernel.printk sysctl interface Chris Down
2024-11-14 16:25 ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2024-10-28 16:46 ` [PATCH v6 11/11] printk: Purge default_console_loglevel Chris Down
2024-11-14 16:38 ` Petr Mladek
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