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From: wichert@cistron.nl (Wichert Akkerman)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ISA hardware discovery -- the elegant solution
Date: 14 Jan 2002 18:11:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a1v3g2$h8s$1@picard.cistron.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F50839283B51D211BC300008C7A4D63F0C10759D@eukgunt002.uk.eu.ericsson.se> <20020114111141.A14332@thyrsus.com> <3C430E89.E65DCEDC@inet.com>

In article <3C430E89.E65DCEDC@inet.com>,
Eli Carter  <eli.carter@inet.com> wrote:
>Could you maybe describe the problem you are trying to solve a bit more
>clearly than "the hardware-discovery problem for ISA devices"?  If you
>are trying to discover the ISA devices, but rely upon them having
>already been discovered, what are you accomplishing?

The problem is that it is simply not possible to identify ISA devices
if they aren't isapnp devices. The only thing you can do is try to
probe for them by poking at different addresses and checking what happens.
Unfortunately this can do any of three things: show that a piece of
hardware exists, show that it is not there or completely crash your
machine if another unpexpected piece of hardware happens to be at the 
place you are poking.

The best approach to doing ISA detection is ask the user which
devices he thinks he has installed and try looking for them while
praying bad things won't happen.

Wichert.

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-01-14 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-14 11:17 ISA hardware discovery -- the elegant solution Michael Lazarou (ETL)
2002-01-14 16:11 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 16:59   ` Eli Carter
2002-01-14 17:11     ` Wichert Akkerman [this message]
2002-01-14 17:52     ` Aunt Tillie builds a kernel (was Re: ISA hardware discovery -- the elegant solution) Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 18:34       ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 18:26         ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 18:55           ` Charles Cazabon
2002-01-14 13:32             ` Rob Landley
2002-01-14 18:54             ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 14:28               ` Rob Landley
2002-01-14 22:34                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 23:02                   ` Bruce Harada
2002-01-14 15:39                     ` Rob Landley
2002-01-15  2:22                       ` Bruce Harada
2002-01-15 13:27                         ` Rob Landley
2002-01-15  0:46                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-15 12:29                     ` Andrew Pimlott
2002-01-15 14:28                       ` Bruce Harada
2002-01-15 17:04                       ` Thomas Duffy
2002-01-15 18:19                         ` Marco Colombo
2002-01-15 18:52                           ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-01-15 19:15                             ` Manuel McLure
2002-01-15 19:28                             ` Marco Colombo
2002-01-15 20:13                               ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-01-15 20:30                                 ` Manuel McLure
2002-01-15 20:41                                 ` arjanv
2002-01-15 20:56                                   ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-01-15 21:27                                   ` Marco Colombo
2002-01-15 21:29                                 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-15 19:55                             ` Alan Cox
2002-01-15 20:59                               ` David Woodhouse
2002-01-16 14:53                             ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-16 13:57                         ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-16 10:42                       ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-15 13:53                     ` David Woodhouse
2002-01-14 23:26                   ` Alan Cox
2002-01-15  2:06                     ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-15 21:08                       ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-15  0:09                   ` Mark Hahn
2002-01-15  9:14                   ` Sean Hunter
2002-01-15 16:36                     ` Rob Landley
2002-01-14 19:29               ` Tom Rini
2002-01-14 19:29               ` Eli Carter
2002-01-14 19:45               ` Dave Jones
2002-01-14 19:52               ` Charles Cazabon
2002-01-15 11:00               ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-14 19:00           ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 18:44             ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 19:14               ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 19:34                 ` Tom Rini
2002-01-14 18:59             ` Larry McVoy
2002-01-14 19:02           ` arjan
2002-01-14 19:50             ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 13:01               ` gmack
2002-01-14 14:43               ` Rob Landley
2002-01-14 20:26               ` Charles Cazabon
2002-01-14 20:19                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 20:49                   ` Dave Jones
2002-01-14 20:55                   ` Brian Gerst
2002-01-14 21:21                   ` Alan Cox
2002-01-15 11:40                 ` David Woodhouse
2002-01-14 20:30               ` Justin Carlson
2002-01-15  1:30                 ` Tom Rini
2002-01-15 22:46                   ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2002-01-15 22:56                     ` Tom Rini
2002-01-16  4:09                     ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 20:37               ` Dave Jones
2002-01-14 20:38                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 22:07                   ` Jeff Garzik
2002-01-14 22:18                     ` Dave Jones
2002-01-14 22:36                       ` Jeff Garzik
2002-01-14 22:18                   ` Reid Hekman
2002-01-14 23:30                     ` Timothy Covell
2002-01-14 21:05               ` Hugh Dickins
2002-01-14 21:15               ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 22:08                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 23:03                   ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 22:41                     ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 23:27                       ` Alan Cox
2002-01-15  1:21                         ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-15 12:31                         ` Marco Colombo
2002-01-15 22:17                 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2002-01-15 23:22                   ` Tom Rini
2002-01-16 10:49                     ` Keith Owens
2002-01-15 11:53               ` T. A.
2002-01-15 13:53               ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-14 19:28           ` Ben Collins
2002-01-14 22:41           ` Tom Gilbert
2002-01-14 18:38       ` Dave Jones
2002-01-14 18:53         ` Larry McVoy
2002-01-14 20:50           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2002-01-15 19:34             ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-15 21:38           ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2002-01-15 23:44             ` Rob Landley
2002-01-16 14:33               ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2002-01-16 13:05                 ` Rob Landley
2002-01-16 15:27             ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-15 10:05       ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-14 18:33   ` ISA hardware discovery -- the elegant solution Oliver Xymoron
2002-01-14 23:02     ` Tom Gilbert
2002-01-14 18:58   ` Andrew Pimlott
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-01-14 18:36 Stephen Shirley
2002-01-14 14:25 Michael Lazarou (ETL)
2002-01-14 14:47 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
     [not found] <fa.r42lgsv.1b5e3p9@ifi.uio.no>
2002-01-14 12:30 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
     [not found] <fa.dardpev.1m1emjp@ifi.uio.no>
2002-01-14 10:14 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-01-14 16:16   ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 16:38     ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-01-14 16:34       ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 17:48     ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 17:55       ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 18:08         ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 17:59       ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 18:35         ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14  8:03 Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-01-14  9:44 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 14:00   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-01-14  1:58 Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14  2:54 ` Larry McVoy
2002-01-14  8:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-14  8:48   ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14  9:17     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-14 17:34     ` Eric W. Biederman

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