Re: reiser4 plugins

David Masover
2005-07-01T08:11:58Z

David Weinehall wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 04:58:20PM +0300, Markus Törnqvist wrote:
>
>>On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 09:50:27AM -0400, Douglas McNaught wrote:
>>
>>>I'll just note that the "applications bundled as directories" stuff on
>>>MacOS/NextStep is done completely in userspace--as far as the kernel
>>>is concerned, "Mail.app" is a regular directory. The file manager
>>>handles recognition and invocation of application bundles (and there
>>>is an 'open' shell command that does the same thing).
>>
>>Note that MacOS has the monopoly on what they ship, Linux has a
>>motherload of file managers and window systems and all.
>>
>>What pisses me off is the fact that Gnome and friends implement
>>their own incompatible-with-others VFS's and automounters and
>>stuff.
>>
>>Surely supporting this in the kernel and extending the LSB
>>to require this is the best step to take without infringing
>>anyone's freedom as such.
>>
>>*still pissed off about having to hassle an automatic mount*
>
>
> GNOME and KDE run on operating systems that run other kernels than
> Linux, hence they have to implement their own userland VFS anyway.
> Adding this to the Linux kernel won't help them one bit, unless
> we can magically convince Sun to add it to Solaris, all different
> BSD:s to add it to their kernels, etc. Not going to happen.
> An effort to get GNOME and KDE to unify their VFS:s would be
> far more benificial,

Than what? Creating a unified VFS which I can access from Bash, and
which obsoletes both GNOME and KDE's VFSes except in their presentation?

> FreeDesktop is doing a lot of work to make GNOME, KDE, and other
> DE:s interoperate as much as possible. Support their initiative
> instead of trying to get a monstrosity (albeit a very cool one,
> conceptually) into the kernel. Sure, it could be made to work,
> but not without dropping our Unixness.

(I'm talking about the metafs (/meta) idea, which isn't nearly as much a
monstrocity, and doesn't kill our unixness, it enhances it.)