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From: Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>
To: "Wysocki, Rafael J" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Frank Li <Frank.li@nxp.com>
Cc: <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>, <linux-i3c@lists.infradead.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/7] i3c: mipi-i3c-hci: Allow parent to manage runtime PM
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2026 18:57:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a6525228-2abf-4177-acc7-858843941ba4@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <73f7fc6b-d3cc-46d0-a07b-45c2a4190434@intel.com>

On 03/02/2026 18:22, Wysocki, Rafael J wrote:
> 
> On 2/3/2026 4:59 PM, Frank Li wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 03, 2026 at 02:54:44PM +0200, Adrian Hunter wrote:
>>> + Rafael
>>>
>>> Rafael, this is not at all urgent, but when you have time
>>> please have a look at this patch set.  There is also some
>>> more explanation below.  Is it acceptable?  Is there a
>>> better way?
>>>
>>> On 02/02/2026 18:25, Frank Li wrote:
>>>> Does your device Hierarchy look like
>>>>
>>>>             PCI device
>>>>                 |
>>>>         -----------------
>>>>        HCI1            HCI2
>>>>         |               |
>>>>       I3C M1          I3C M2
>>> Yes and no.  There is only 1 real device : the PCI device.
>>> It implements the MIPI I3C HCI standard which allows multiple
>>> I3C bus controllers in one device (in our case 2 controllers).
>>>
>>> The PCI driver mipi-i3c-hci-pci creates 2 platform devices,
>>> one for each controller.  The platform driver is mipi-i3c-hci:
>>>
>>>   Driver                        Device                     Bus
>>>
>>>   mipi-i3c-hci-pci            0000:00:11.1                 PCI
>>>                              /            \
>>>   mipi-i3c-hci      intel-lpss-i3c.0  intel-lpss-i3c.1     Platform
>>>
>>> LPSS I3C also supports wake-up from in-band interrupt (IBI) via
>>> PCI PME.  The PME only works when the PCI device is in a low power
>>> state (D3hot in our case).  Also the PME is effectively shared by
>>> the 2 controllers i.e. an IBI signal (the controller's SDA line
>>> pulled low) for either controller will cause the PME.
>>>
>>> That means there are only 2 valid configurations:
>>>
>>>     1: Both controllers enabled to receive IBIs
>>>         PCI device    D0
>>>         Controller 1    Enabled
>>>         Controller 2    Enabled
>>>
>>>     2: Both controllers disabled to enable PME wakeup
>>>         PCI device    D3hot
>>>         Controller 1    Disabled
>>>         Controller 2    Disabled
>>>
>>> However, represented as platform devices, the 2 controllers
>>> runtime suspend and resume independently from each other.
>>> Whereas they effectively need to runtime suspend (or resume)
>>> at the same time.
>>>
>>> The proposed solution is for the PCI driver mipi-i3c-hci-pci
>>> to take over managing runtime PM for both controllers, calling
>>> into mipi-i3c-hci when it is safe to do so, to save/restore state
>>> and disable/enable the controllers one after the other.
>>>
>>> Current situation (I3C next branch):
>>>
>>>     PCI device    Runtime PM enabled, dependent on child devices
>>>             PCI subsystem controls PCI device power state
>>>
>>>     Controller 1    Runtime PM enabled plus auto-suspend
>>>             I3C subsystem runtime PM gets/puts the Platform device
>>>             Runtime suspend: disable and save state
>>>             Runtime resume: restore state and enable
>>>
>>>     Controller 2    Runtime PM enabled plus auto-suspend
>>>             I3C subsystem runtime PM gets/puts the Platform device
>>>             Runtime suspend: disable and save state
>>>             Runtime resume: restore state and enable
>>>
>>> Proposed (this patch set):
>>>
>>>     PCI device    Runtime PM enabled plus auto-suspend
>>>             I3C subsystem runtime PM gets/puts the PCI device
>>>             For each controller:
>>>                 Call into mipi-i3c-hci (when it is safe)
>>>                     Runtime suspend: disable and save state
>>>                     Runtime resume: restore state and enable
>>>
>>>     Controller 1    Runtime PM disabled
>>>
>>>     Controller 2    Runtime PM disabled
>> Controller 1/2 is child device of PCI device.
>>
>> So first patch "i3c: master: Allow controller drivers to select runtime PM device"
>> is not necessary.
>>
>> You can enable controller 1 and 2 Runtime PM with dummy operation.
>>
>> When controller 1 run time suspend, parent PCI device will reduce ref counter
>> when controller 2 run time suspend, parent PCI device will reduce ref counter
>>
>> Only runtime pm reference counter of PCI device is 0, PCI device's run time
>> suspend will be called, you can do actual disable and save work.
> 
> This sounds to me like it should work.
So, like this, then?

	PCI device	Runtime PM enabled
			For each controller:
				Call into mipi-i3c-hci (when it is safe)
					Runtime suspend: disable and save state
					Runtime resume: restore state and enable

	Controller 1	Runtime PM enabled plus auto-suspend
			I3C subsystem runtime PM gets/puts the Platform device
			Runtime suspend: does nothing
			Runtime resume: does nothing

	Controller 2	Runtime PM enabled plus auto-suspend
			I3C subsystem runtime PM gets/puts the Platform device
			Runtime suspend: does nothing
			Runtime resume: does nothing



  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-03 16:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-29 18:18 [PATCH 0/7] i3c: mipi-i3c-hci-pci: Enable IBI while runtime suspended for Intel controllers Adrian Hunter
2026-01-29 18:18 ` [PATCH 1/7] i3c: mipi-i3c-hci-pci: Set d3hot_delay to 0 " Adrian Hunter
2026-01-29 19:43   ` Frank Li
2026-01-29 18:18 ` [PATCH 2/7] i3c: master: Allow controller drivers to select runtime PM device Adrian Hunter
2026-01-29 18:18 ` [PATCH 3/7] i3c: master: Mark last_busy on IBI when runtime PM is allowed Adrian Hunter
2026-01-29 19:56   ` Frank Li
2026-01-29 20:42     ` Adrian Hunter
2026-01-29 20:55       ` Frank Li
2026-01-30  7:48         ` Adrian Hunter
2026-01-29 18:18 ` [PATCH 4/7] i3c: mipi-i3c-hci: Add quirk to allow IBI while runtime suspended Adrian Hunter
2026-01-29 18:18 ` [PATCH 5/7] i3c: mipi-i3c-hci: Allow parent to manage runtime PM Adrian Hunter
2026-01-29 20:00   ` Frank Li
2026-01-29 20:28     ` Adrian Hunter
2026-01-29 21:00       ` Frank Li
2026-01-30  7:00         ` Adrian Hunter
2026-01-30 15:04           ` Frank Li
2026-01-30 16:34             ` Adrian Hunter
2026-01-30 17:11               ` Frank Li
2026-02-02 16:25               ` Frank Li
2026-02-03 12:54                 ` Adrian Hunter
2026-02-03 15:59                   ` Frank Li
2026-02-03 16:22                     ` Wysocki, Rafael J
2026-02-03 16:57                       ` Adrian Hunter [this message]
2026-02-03 20:20                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-01-29 18:18 ` [PATCH 6/7] i3c: mipi-i3c-hci-pci: Add optional ability to manage child " Adrian Hunter
2026-01-29 18:18 ` [PATCH 7/7] i3c: mipi-i3c-hci-pci: Enable IBI while runtime suspended for Intel controllers Adrian Hunter

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