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From: torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Cleanup port 0x80 use (was: Re: IO delay ...)
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 21:33:45 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a6tpbp$snd$1@penguin.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0203151736460.1477-100000@biker.pdb.fsc.net> <E16lw5V-0004ES-00@the-village.bc.nu> <a6tm95$c55$1@cesium.transmeta.com>

In article <a6tm95$c55$1@cesium.transmeta.com>,
H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
>
>The ISA bus doesn't time out; a cycle on the ISA bus just happens, and
>the fact that noone is there to listen doesn't seem to matter.

The ISA bus doesn't time out, but the PCI access before it gets
forwarded to the ISA bus _does_, if the ISA bus is decoded using
nagative decoding.

This is why it's important that there not be a motherboard PCI device
that can decode the port - because if there is, the access is
potentially a much faster PCI-only decode.

Note that this really only matters on low-end machines anyway, as the
whole "inb_p()" thing tends to be used only for old ISA devices.  If you
have a new machine that is all PCI, I doubt that port 80h access matters
not at all. 

(Another way of saying it: if you have a machine with a PCI POST card,
none of this will matter)

			Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2002-03-15 21:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <3C90E983.5AC769B8@ngforever.de.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0203151243430.1477-100000@biker.pdb.fsc.net.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-03-15 11:51   ` IO delay, port 0x80, and BIOS POST codes Andi Kleen
2002-03-15 12:47     ` Martin Wilck
2002-03-15 12:52       ` Andi Kleen
2002-03-15 17:41         ` [PATCH] Cleanup port 0x80 use (was: Re: IO delay ...) Martin Wilck
2002-03-15 18:05           ` Alan Cox
2002-03-15 20:41             ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-15 21:33               ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2002-03-15 21:37               ` Alan Cox
2002-03-16  0:01                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-03-15 18:57           ` Andreas Dilger
2002-03-15 20:17             ` Martin Wilck
2002-03-17  2:01               ` Jamie Lokier
2002-03-18  9:18                 ` Martin Wilck
2002-03-18  9:39                   ` Keith Owens
2002-03-18 11:20                     ` Martin Wilck
2002-03-18 15:22                   ` Jamie Lokier

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