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From: torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 7.52 second kernel compile
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 08:05:14 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a6uubq$uqr$1@penguin.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020313085217.GA11658@krispykreme> <20020316061535.GA16653@krispykreme>

In article <20020316061535.GA16653@krispykreme>,
Anton Blanchard  <anton@samba.org> wrote:
>
>hardware: 32 way logical partition, 1.1GHz POWER4, 60G RAM

It's interesting to see that scalability doesn't seem to be the #1
problem by a long shot. 

>7.52 seconds is not a bad result for something running under a hypervisor.
>The profile looks much better now. We still spend a lot of time flushing tlb
>entries but we can look into batching them.

I wonder if you wouldn't be better off just getting rid of the TLB range
flush altogether, and instead making it select a new VSID in the segment
register, and just forgetting about the old TLB contents entirely.

Then, when you do a TLB miss, you just re-use any hash table entries
that have a stale VSID.

It seems that you spend _way_ too much time actually trying to
physically invalidate the hashtables, which sounds like a total waste to
me. Especially as going through them to see whether they need to be
invalidated has to be a horribe thing for the dcache.

It would also be interesting to hear if you can just make the hash table
smaller (I forget the details of 64-bit ppc VM horrors, thank God!) or
just bypass it altogether (at least the 604e used to be able to just
disable the stupid hashing altogether and make the whole thing much
saner). 

Note that the official IBM "minimum recommended page table sizes" stuff
looks like total and utter crap.  Those tables have nothing to do with
sanity, and everything to do with a crappy OS called AIX that takes
forever to fill the hashes.  You should probably make them the minimum
size (which, if I remember correctly, is still quite a large amount of
memory thrown away on a TLB) if you can't just disable them altogether. 

			Linus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-03-16  8:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-13  8:52 10.31 second kernel compile Anton Blanchard
2002-03-13 14:44 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-03-13 21:44   ` [Lse-tech] " Dave Hansen
2002-03-14  1:07     ` Keith Owens
2002-03-14 11:27   ` Anton Blanchard
2002-03-14 13:16     ` [Lse-tech] " Dipankar Sarma
2002-03-17 13:12       ` some RCU dcache and ratcache results Anton Blanchard
2002-03-14 13:21     ` [Lse-tech] Re: 10.31 second kernel compile Momchil Velikov
2002-03-14 18:33       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-15 12:16         ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-03-16  5:12           ` Anton Blanchard
2002-03-15 18:20         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-16 11:55           ` Paul Mackerras
2002-03-16 17:25             ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-16 17:57             ` yodaiken
2002-03-16 18:06             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-16 18:35               ` yodaiken
2002-03-16 18:45                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-16 18:57                   ` yodaiken
2002-03-16 19:16                     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-16 19:43                       ` David Mosberger
2002-03-16 19:58                         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-16 20:08                           ` yodaiken
2002-03-16 20:23                             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-16 20:36                           ` David Mosberger
2002-03-16 20:46                             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-17  1:09                               ` Paul Mackerras
2002-03-17  2:08                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-16 19:53                       ` yodaiken
2002-03-16 20:02                         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-16 20:25                           ` yodaiken
2002-03-27  1:07                       ` Richard Henderson
2002-03-16 20:53               ` Alan Cox
2002-03-18  3:07             ` David S. Miller
2002-03-16 15:24           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-16 19:01             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-16 22:25               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-03-19 16:35                 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-03-14 19:05       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-19 16:40         ` Bill Davidsen
2002-03-14 18:21     ` Hanna Linder
2002-03-16  5:27       ` Anton Blanchard
2002-03-15  7:12   ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-03-16  6:15 ` 7.52 " Anton Blanchard
2002-03-16  6:42   ` [Lse-tech] " Gerrit Huizenga
2002-03-17 12:34     ` Anton Blanchard
2002-03-17 22:09       ` Theodore Tso
2002-03-18  7:04         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-19 18:28           ` Theodore Tso
2002-03-16  8:05   ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2002-03-16 11:04     ` Paul Mackerras
2002-03-16 18:32       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-17  2:00         ` Paul Mackerras
2002-03-17  2:40           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-17  2:50             ` M. Edward Borasky
2002-03-18 15:08               ` 0.73 " snpe
2002-03-18 19:42           ` 7.52 " Cort Dougan
2002-03-18 20:04             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-18 20:23               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-18 21:50                 ` Rene Herman
2002-03-18 22:36                 ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-18 22:47                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-18 22:56                     ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-18 23:52                     ` Paul Mackerras
2002-03-19  0:57                       ` Dave Jones
2002-03-19  3:35                         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-03-19  0:22                     ` David S. Miller
2002-03-19  0:27                       ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-19  0:27                         ` David S. Miller
2002-03-19  0:36                           ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-19  0:38                             ` David S. Miller
2002-03-19  1:28                               ` Davide Libenzi
2002-03-19  2:42                 ` Paul Mackerras
2002-03-27  2:53                 ` Richard Henderson
2002-04-02  4:32                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-02 10:50                 ` Pablo Alcaraz
2002-03-18 21:34               ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-18 22:00                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-18 19:37       ` Cort Dougan
2002-03-16 11:54     ` yodaiken
2002-03-16 17:37   ` [Lse-tech] " Martin J. Bligh
2002-03-16 18:57     ` Daniel Egger
2002-03-17  8:18       ` Mike Galbraith
2002-03-17 15:29         ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-03-17  1:45     ` Keith Owens
2002-03-17 13:54     ` David Woodhouse
2002-03-19 16:49     ` Bill Davidsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-18 22:12 Dieter Nützel
2002-03-18 22:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-18 23:53   ` Davide Libenzi
2002-03-19  0:20   ` David S. Miller
2002-03-19  0:47     ` Davide Libenzi
2002-03-19  1:37     ` Andreas Ferber
2002-03-19  1:38       ` David S. Miller
2002-03-19  2:08     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-03-19  5:24       ` Erik Andersen

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