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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>, Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v6 9/9] page_pool: access ->pp_magic through struct netmem_desc in page_pool_page_is_pp()
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 16:58:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a8d40a05-db4c-400f-839b-3c6159a1feab@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <460ACE40-9E99-42B8-90F0-2B18D2D8C72C@nvidia.com>

On 23.06.25 13:13, Zi Yan wrote:
> On 23 Jun 2025, at 6:16, Byungchul Park wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 11:16:43AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>> On 20.06.25 06:12, Byungchul Park wrote:
>>>> To simplify struct page, the effort to separate its own descriptor from
>>>> struct page is required and the work for page pool is on going.
>>>>
>>>> To achieve that, all the code should avoid directly accessing page pool
>>>> members of struct page.
>>>>
>>>> Access ->pp_magic through struct netmem_desc instead of directly
>>>> accessing it through struct page in page_pool_page_is_pp().  Plus, move
>>>> page_pool_page_is_pp() from mm.h to netmem.h to use struct netmem_desc
>>>> without header dependency issue.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>
>>>> Reviewed-by: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@redhat.com>
>>>> Reviewed-by: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>
>>>> Reviewed-by: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
>>>> Reviewed-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
>>>> Acked-by: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>    include/linux/mm.h   | 12 ------------
>>>>    include/net/netmem.h | 14 ++++++++++++++
>>>>    mm/page_alloc.c      |  1 +
>>>>    3 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/mm.h b/include/linux/mm.h
>>>> index 0ef2ba0c667a..0b7f7f998085 100644
>>>> --- a/include/linux/mm.h
>>>> +++ b/include/linux/mm.h
>>>> @@ -4172,16 +4172,4 @@ int arch_lock_shadow_stack_status(struct task_struct *t, unsigned long status);
>>>>     */
>>>>    #define PP_MAGIC_MASK ~(PP_DMA_INDEX_MASK | 0x3UL)
>>>>
>>>> -#ifdef CONFIG_PAGE_POOL
>>>> -static inline bool page_pool_page_is_pp(struct page *page)
>>>> -{
>>>> -     return (page->pp_magic & PP_MAGIC_MASK) == PP_SIGNATURE;
>>>> -}
>>>> -#else
>>>> -static inline bool page_pool_page_is_pp(struct page *page)
>>>> -{
>>>> -     return false;
>>>> -}
>>>> -#endif
>>>> -
>>>>    #endif /* _LINUX_MM_H */
>>>> diff --git a/include/net/netmem.h b/include/net/netmem.h
>>>> index d49ed49d250b..3d1b1dfc9ba5 100644
>>>> --- a/include/net/netmem.h
>>>> +++ b/include/net/netmem.h
>>>> @@ -56,6 +56,20 @@ NETMEM_DESC_ASSERT_OFFSET(pp_ref_count, pp_ref_count);
>>>>     */
>>>>    static_assert(sizeof(struct netmem_desc) <= offsetof(struct page, _refcount));
>>>>
>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_PAGE_POOL
>>>> +static inline bool page_pool_page_is_pp(struct page *page)
>>>> +{
>>>> +     struct netmem_desc *desc = (struct netmem_desc *)page;
>>>> +
>>>> +     return (desc->pp_magic & PP_MAGIC_MASK) == PP_SIGNATURE;
>>>> +}
>>>> +#else
>>>> +static inline bool page_pool_page_is_pp(struct page *page)
>>>> +{
>>>> +     return false;
>>>> +}
>>>> +#endif
>>>
>>> I wonder how helpful this cleanup is long-term.
>>>
>>> page_pool_page_is_pp() is only called from mm/page_alloc.c, right?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>> There, we want to make sure that no pagepool page is ever returned to
>>> the buddy.
>>>
>>> How reasonable is this sanity check to have long-term? Wouldn't we be
>>> able to check that on some higher-level freeing path?
>>>
>>> The reason I am commenting is that once we decouple "struct page" from
>>> "struct netmem_desc", we'd have to lookup here the corresponding "struct
>>> netmem_desc".
>>>
>>> ... but at that point here (when we free the actual pages), the "struct
>>> netmem_desc" would likely already have been freed separately (remember:
>>> it will be dynamically allocated).
>>>
>>> With that in mind:
>>>
>>> 1) Is there a higher level "struct netmem_desc" freeing path where we
>>> could check that instead, so we don't have to cast from pages to
>>> netmem_desc at all.
>>
>> I also thought it's too paranoiac.  However, I thought it's other issue
>> than this work.  That's why I left the API as is for now, it can be gone
>> once we get convinced the check is unnecessary in deep buddy.  Wrong?
>>
>>> 2) How valuable are these sanity checks deep in the buddy?
>>
>> That was also what I felt weird on.
> 
> It seems very useful when I asked last time[1]:
> 
> |> We have actually used this at Cloudflare to catch some page_pool bugs.

My question is rather, whether there is some higher-level freeing path 
for netmem_desc where we could check that instead (IOW, earlier).

Or is it really arbitrary put_page() (IOW, we assume that many possible 
references can be held)?

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-06-23 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-20  4:12 [PATCH net-next v6 0/9] Split netmem from struct page Byungchul Park
2025-06-20  4:12 ` [PATCH net-next v6 1/9] netmem: introduce struct netmem_desc mirroring " Byungchul Park
2025-06-23  9:32   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-23 10:28     ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-23 10:38       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-23 12:18       ` Harry Yoo
2025-06-23 19:09         ` Mina Almasry
2025-06-23 19:28           ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-24  1:17           ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-20  4:12 ` [PATCH net-next v6 2/9] page_pool: rename page_pool_return_page() to page_pool_return_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-06-20  4:12 ` [PATCH net-next v6 3/9] page_pool: rename __page_pool_release_page_dma() to __page_pool_release_netmem_dma() Byungchul Park
2025-06-20  4:12 ` [PATCH net-next v6 4/9] page_pool: rename __page_pool_alloc_pages_slow() to __page_pool_alloc_netmems_slow() Byungchul Park
2025-06-20  4:12 ` [PATCH net-next v6 5/9] netmem: use _Generic to cover const casting for page_to_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-06-20  4:12 ` [PATCH net-next v6 6/9] netmem: remove __netmem_get_pp() Byungchul Park
2025-06-23  4:32   ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-24  0:17     ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-06-24  1:27       ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-20  4:12 ` [PATCH net-next v6 7/9] page_pool: make page_pool_get_dma_addr() just wrap page_pool_get_dma_addr_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-06-20  4:12 ` [PATCH net-next v6 8/9] netmem: introduce a netmem API, virt_to_head_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-06-20  4:12 ` [PATCH net-next v6 9/9] page_pool: access ->pp_magic through struct netmem_desc in page_pool_page_is_pp() Byungchul Park
2025-06-23  9:16   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-23 10:16     ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-23 11:13       ` Zi Yan
2025-06-23 11:25         ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-23 14:58         ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-06-23 15:25           ` Zi Yan
2025-06-24 14:43             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-06-24 14:56               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25  1:24                 ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-26  6:35                   ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-23 17:06           ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-23 17:28             ` Mina Almasry
2025-06-23 18:09               ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-06-23 18:14               ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-24  1:54                 ` Byungchul Park

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