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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Marco Crivellari <marco.crivellari@suse.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Workqueue: rename system workqueue and add WQ_PERCPU
Date: Mon, 5 May 2025 13:39:25 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aBlMLQl504ThYbnf@slm.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250503082834.49413-1-marco.crivellari@suse.com>

Hello,

On Sat, May 03, 2025 at 10:28:30AM +0200, Marco Crivellari wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> This series is the follow up of the discussion from:
> 	"workqueue: Always use wq_select_unbound_cpu() for WORK_CPU_UNBOUND."
> 	https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250221112003.1dSuoGyc@linutronix.de/

Can you please make a summary of the discussion here? Referring to old
thread is useful but it'd be nice to have the rationales laid out in the
patchset - why this is desirable, what is the transition plan and what are
the rationales for it? Also, please include a short summary in the patches.

> 1)  [P 1-2] system workqueue rename:
>  
> 	system_wq is a per-CPU workqueue, but his name is not clear.
> 	system_unbound_wq is to be used when locality is not required.
> 	
> 	system_wq renamed in system_percpu_wq, while system_unbound_wq
> 	became system_dfl_wq.

Let's keep the old names for a release or two and trigger printk_once()
warnings about the renames. These are pretty widely used, so I think it
warrants a bit of extra effort.

> 2)  [P 3] Introduction of WQ_PERCPU.
> 
> 	This patch adds a new WQ_PERCPU flag to explicitly request the legacy
> 	per-CPU behavior. WQ_UNBOUND will be removed once the migration is
> 	complete.

I wouldn't call per-cpu behavior legacy. There are plenty of cases that need
per-cpu behavior for correctness and/or performance.

> 	Every alloc_workqueue() caller should use one among WQ_PERCPU or
> 	WQ_UNBOUND. This is actually enforced warning if both or none of them
> 	are present at the same time.

Similarly, let's warn about violations and assume the old behavior at first.

> 3)  [P 4] alloc_workqueue() callee should pass explicitly WQ_PERCPU.

Do you mean caller?

> 
> 	This patch ensures that every caller that needs per-cpu workqueue
> 	will explicitly require it, using the WQ_PERCPU flag.

How is 3) different from 2)?

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-05-05 23:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-03  8:28 [PATCH 0/4] Workqueue: rename system workqueue and add WQ_PERCPU Marco Crivellari
2025-05-03  8:28 ` [PATCH 1/4] Workqueue: rename system_wq to system_percpu_wq Marco Crivellari
2025-05-03  8:28 ` [PATCH 2/4] Workqueue: rename system_unbound_wq to system_dfl_wq Marco Crivellari
2025-05-03  8:28 ` [PATCH 3/4] Workqueue: add WQ_PERCPU Marco Crivellari
2025-05-03  8:28 ` [PATCH 4/4] Workqueue: add WQ_PERCPU to every alloc_workqueue user Marco Crivellari
2025-05-05  6:56   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-05-05  9:22   ` Michal Hocko
2025-05-06 12:36     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-05-05  6:51 ` [PATCH 0/4] Workqueue: rename system workqueue and add WQ_PERCPU Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-05-05  7:55   ` Marco Crivellari
2025-05-05  9:25   ` Michal Hocko
2025-05-06  7:53     ` Marco Crivellari
2025-05-05 23:39 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2025-05-06 10:10   ` Marco Crivellari
2025-05-06 12:55     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-05-07  0:42       ` Tejun Heo
2025-05-07 12:04         ` Frederic Weisbecker

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