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From: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
To: Vishal Annapurve <vannapurve@google.com>
Cc: <pbonzini@redhat.com>, <seanjc@google.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	<x86@kernel.org>, <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
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	<thomas.lendacky@amd.com>, <pgonda@google.com>,
	<zhiquan1.li@intel.com>, <fan.du@intel.com>, <jun.miao@intel.com>,
	<ira.weiny@intel.com>, <isaku.yamahata@intel.com>,
	<xiaoyao.li@intel.com>, <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 08/21] KVM: TDX: Increase/decrease folio ref for huge pages
Date: Tue, 6 May 2025 14:04:58 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aBmmirBzOZfmMOJj@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGtprH9wi6zHJ5JeuAnjZThMAzxxibJGo=XN1G1Nx8txZRg8_w@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 05, 2025 at 10:08:24PM -0700, Vishal Annapurve wrote:
> On Mon, May 5, 2025 at 5:56 PM Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry for the late reply, I was on leave last week.
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 06:46:59AM -0700, Vishal Annapurve wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 5:52 PM Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com> wrote:
> > > > So, we plan to remove folio_ref_add()/folio_put_refs() in future, only invoking
> > > > folio_ref_add() in the event of a removal failure.
> > >
> > > In my opinion, the above scheme can be deployed with this series
> > > itself. guest_memfd will not take away memory from TDX VMs without an
> > I initially intended to add a separate patch at the end of this series to
> > implement invoking folio_ref_add() only upon a removal failure. However, I
> > decided against it since it's not a must before guest_memfd supports in-place
> > conversion.
> >
> > We can include it in the next version If you think it's better.
> 
> Ackerley is planning to send out a series for 1G Hugetlb support with
> guest memfd soon, hopefully this week. Plus I don't see any reason to
> hold extra refcounts in TDX stack so it would be good to clean up this
> logic.
> 
> >
> > > invalidation. folio_ref_add() will not work for memory not backed by
> > > page structs, but that problem can be solved in future possibly by
> > With current TDX code, all memory must be backed by a page struct.
> > Both tdh_mem_page_add() and tdh_mem_page_aug() require a "struct page *" rather
> > than a pfn.
> >
> > > notifying guest_memfd of certain ranges being in use even after
> > > invalidation completes.
> > A curious question:
> > To support memory not backed by page structs in future, is there any counterpart
> > to the page struct to hold ref count and map count?
> >
> 
> I imagine the needed support will match similar semantics as VM_PFNMAP
> [1] memory. No need to maintain refcounts/map counts for such physical
> memory ranges as all users will be notified when mappings are
> changed/removed.
So, it's possible to map such memory in both shared and private EPT
simultaneously?


> Any guest_memfd range updates will result in invalidations/updates of
> userspace, guest, IOMMU or any other page tables referring to
> guest_memfd backed pfns. This story will become clearer once the
> support for PFN range allocator for backing guest_memfd starts getting
> discussed.
Ok. It is indeed unclear right now to support such kind of memory.

Up to now, we don't anticipate TDX will allow any mapping of VM_PFNMAP memory
into private EPT until TDX connect.
And even in that scenario, the memory is only for private MMIO, so the backend
driver is VFIO pci driver rather than guest_memfd.


> [1] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.14.5/source/mm/memory.c#L6543

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-06  6:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 294+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-24  3:00 [RFC PATCH 00/21] KVM: TDX huge page support for private memory Yan Zhao
2025-04-24  3:04 ` [RFC PATCH 01/21] KVM: gmem: Allocate 2M huge page from guest_memfd backend Yan Zhao
2025-04-24  3:04 ` [RFC PATCH 02/21] x86/virt/tdx: Enhance tdh_mem_page_aug() to support huge pages Yan Zhao
2025-04-24  7:48   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-04-24  8:41     ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-25  6:51   ` Binbin Wu
2025-04-25  7:19     ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 18:52   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16  9:05     ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 17:10       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-19  9:26       ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-06-23  9:32         ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-15  2:16   ` Chao Gao
2025-05-16  9:07     ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-08  8:48   ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-08 13:55     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-08 15:29       ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-08 15:32         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-08 22:06           ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-08 23:16             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-08 23:31               ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-09  2:23       ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-09 14:08         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-24  3:04 ` [RFC PATCH 03/21] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrapper tdh_mem_page_demote() Yan Zhao
2025-04-25  7:12   ` Binbin Wu
2025-04-25  7:17     ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-25  7:25       ` Binbin Wu
2025-04-25  9:24         ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 18:19   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-15  8:26     ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-15 17:28       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16  2:23         ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-01 21:15         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-24  3:05 ` [RFC PATCH 04/21] KVM: TDX: Enforce 4KB mapping level during TD build Time Yan Zhao
2025-04-24  7:55   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-04-24  8:49     ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 19:12   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-15  9:16     ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-15 17:32       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 10:05         ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24  3:05 ` [RFC PATCH 05/21] KVM: TDX: Enhance tdx_clear_page() to support huge pages Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 19:17   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16  2:02     ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24  3:05 ` [RFC PATCH 06/21] KVM: TDX: Assert the reclaimed pages were mapped as expected Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 19:25   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16  2:11     ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 17:34       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-24  3:05 ` [RFC PATCH 07/21] KVM: TDX: Add a helper for WBINVD on huge pages with TD's keyID Yan Zhao
2025-05-06  8:37   ` Binbin Wu
2025-05-16  3:10     ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 19:29   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16  3:03     ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 17:35       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-24  3:06 ` [RFC PATCH 08/21] KVM: TDX: Increase/decrease folio ref for huge pages Yan Zhao
2025-04-29  0:17   ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-04-29  0:49     ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-29 13:46       ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-06  0:53         ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-06  5:08           ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-06  6:04             ` Yan Zhao [this message]
2025-05-06 13:18               ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-07  7:37                 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-07 14:56                   ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-08  1:30                     ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-08 14:10                       ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-09  3:20                         ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-09 14:20                           ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-09 23:45                             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-10  0:41                               ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-12 21:59                                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-12  2:15                             ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-12 16:53                               ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-15  3:01                                 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-04 20:02                                   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-05  2:42                                     ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-05 21:12                                       ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-16 10:43                                         ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-16 23:27                                           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-11 14:30                                       ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-16  9:59                                         ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-17  0:12                                           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-17  1:38                                             ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-17 15:52                                               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-18  0:19                                                 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-18  0:41                                                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-23  9:27                                                     ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-23 18:20                                                       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
     [not found]                                                       ` <draft-diqzh606mcz0.fsf@ackerleytng-ctop.c.googlers.com>
2025-06-23 22:48                                                         ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-24 10:18                                                           ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-24 21:29                                                             ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-24 22:22                                                               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-24 22:00                                                           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-24 22:14                                                             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-24 23:30                                                             ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-25  0:01                                                               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-25  7:29                                                                 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-25 23:09                                                                 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-25 23:19                                                                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-26 15:16                                                                     ` Shutemov, Kirill
2025-06-26 22:19                                                                       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-27 17:59                                                                         ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-30 11:13                                                                           ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-30 17:55                                                                             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-30 19:25                                                                               ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-30 21:45                                                                                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-01  5:01                                                                                   ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-01  5:22                                                                                     ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-01  6:03                                                                                       ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-01  7:13                                                                                         ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-01 14:15                                                                                           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-01 22:09                                                                                         ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-02 11:24                                                                                           ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-02 18:43                                                                                             ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-03  4:54                                                                                               ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-14 19:32                                                                                                 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-01 16:13                                                                                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-01 21:48                                                                                       ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-01 21:57                                                                                         ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-01 22:37                                                                                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-02 20:57                                                                                           ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-02 23:51                                                                                             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-08 21:19                                                                                               ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-11  1:46                                                                                                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-11  5:12                                                                                                   ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-11 16:14                                                                                                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-14 19:49                                                                                                       ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-15 15:08                                                                                                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-15 22:31                                                                                                           ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-02  9:08                                                                                       ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-02 15:28                                                                                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-01  5:07                                                                                 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-01 22:01                                                                                   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-01 22:26                                                                                     ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-30 21:47                                                                               ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-01  9:35                                                                               ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-01 13:32                                                                                 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-01 14:02                                                                                   ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-01 15:42                                                                                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-01 16:14                                                                                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-02  8:54                                                                                   ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-02 13:12                                                                                     ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-25  7:08                                                               ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-25 22:54                                                                 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-24 22:03                                                           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-17  0:25                                           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-17  2:00                                             ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-17  3:51                                           ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-17  6:52                                             ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-17  8:09                                               ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-17  9:57                                                 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-18  4:25                                                   ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-18  0:34                                                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-18  0:46                                                   ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-18  4:33                                                     ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-18  6:13                                                       ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-18  6:21                                                         ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-18  6:32                                                           ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-18  6:44                                                             ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-18  6:57                                                               ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-18  4:29                                                   ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-19  0:22                                                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-05  2:47                                     ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-05 22:35                                       ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-19  8:11                                         ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-20 18:06                                           ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-16  1:23                                         ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-16 20:57                                           ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-18  5:49                                             ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-22  5:33                                               ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-22  6:37                                                 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-22 17:55                                                   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-12 19:00                           ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-12 21:44                             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-24  3:06 ` [RFC PATCH 09/21] KVM: TDX: Enable 2MB mapping size after TD is RUNNABLE Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 20:10   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16  1:35     ` Huang, Kai
2025-05-16  9:43       ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 22:35         ` Huang, Kai
2025-05-16 23:47           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-19  8:32           ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-19 16:53             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-20  9:34               ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-20 23:47                 ` Huang, Kai
2025-06-11 14:42                   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-12 23:39                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-13  0:19                       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-13  0:25                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-13  0:44                           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-13  0:47                             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-13  1:32                               ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-13 21:53                                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-13 22:19                                   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-13 23:33                                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-16  3:14                                       ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-16 22:49                                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-17  0:52                                           ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-18  0:30                                             ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-20 16:31                                               ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-23 21:44                                                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-24  9:57                                                   ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-24 18:35                                                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-25  9:28                                                       ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-25  9:36                                                         ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-25 14:48                                                           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-26  0:50                                                             ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-25 14:47                                                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-26  8:53                                                           ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-01  0:42                                                             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-01  2:41                                                               ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-01 15:36                                                                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-02  0:12                                                                   ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-02  0:18                                                                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-02  1:07                                                                       ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-02 15:26                                                                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-02  3:31                                                                       ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-25 13:47                                                       ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-25 15:51                                                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-18  1:22                                             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-18 11:32                                               ` Shutemov, Kirill
2025-06-20 16:32                                                 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-20 17:44                                                   ` Kirill Shutemov
2025-06-20 18:40                                                     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-20 19:26                                                       ` Kirill Shutemov
2025-06-13  2:41                     ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-06-13  3:29                       ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-13  5:35                         ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-13  6:08                           ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-05-21 15:40                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-22  3:52                   ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-23 23:40                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-27  1:31                       ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-20 23:34             ` Huang, Kai
2025-05-21  2:35               ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16  9:28     ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24  3:06 ` [RFC PATCH 10/21] KVM: x86/mmu: Disallow page merging (huge page adjustment) for mirror root Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 20:15   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16  4:01     ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 17:50       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-19  3:57         ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-19 17:42           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-20 10:11             ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24  3:06 ` [RFC PATCH 11/21] KVM: x86: Add "vcpu" "gfn" parameters to x86 hook private_max_mapping_level Yan Zhao
2025-04-24  3:07 ` [RFC PATCH 12/21] KVM: TDX: Determine max mapping level according to vCPU's ACCEPT level Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 21:20   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16  6:12     ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-05-16  6:30     ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 22:02       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-19  6:39         ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-19 20:17           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-24  3:07 ` [RFC PATCH 13/21] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Alloc external_spt page for mirror page table splitting Yan Zhao
2025-04-24  3:07 ` [RFC PATCH 14/21] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Invoke split_external_spt hook with exclusive mmu_lock Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 23:06   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16  9:17     ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 22:11       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-19  4:01         ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-19 20:21           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-20  5:40   ` Binbin Wu
2025-05-20  9:40     ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24  3:08 ` [RFC PATCH 15/21] KVM: TDX: Support huge page splitting with exclusive kvm->mmu_lock Yan Zhao
2025-05-20  6:18   ` Binbin Wu
2025-05-20  9:40     ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-02 15:47   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-24  3:08 ` [RFC PATCH 16/21] KVM: x86/mmu: Introduce kvm_split_boundary_leafs() to split boundary leafs Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 22:56   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16  7:46     ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16  8:03       ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 22:27         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-19  8:12           ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 11:44       ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-16 22:16         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-24  3:08 ` [RFC PATCH 17/21] KVM: Change the return type of gfn_handler_t() from bool to int Yan Zhao
2025-04-24  3:08 ` [RFC PATCH 18/21] KVM: x86: Split huge boundary leafs before private to shared conversion Yan Zhao
2025-05-09 23:34   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-12  2:25     ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-12 21:53       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-24  3:08 ` [RFC PATCH 19/21] KVM: gmem: Split huge boundary leafs for punch hole of private memory Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 10:19   ` Francesco Lavra
2025-04-25  1:55     ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 22:59   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16  8:19     ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24  3:09 ` [RFC PATCH 20/21] KVM: x86: Force a prefetch fault's max mapping level to 4KB for TDX Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 23:20   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16  8:43     ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-21  3:30   ` Binbin Wu
2025-05-21  5:03     ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24  3:09 ` [RFC PATCH 21/21] KVM: x86: Ignore splitting huge pages in fault path " Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 21:58   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16  6:40     ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24  7:35 ` [RFC PATCH 00/21] KVM: TDX huge page support for private memory Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-04-24  8:33   ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24  9:05     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-04-24  9:08       ` Juergen Gross
2025-04-24  9:49       ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 10:39         ` Kirill A. Shutemov

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