From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
ardb@kernel.org, arnd@arndb.de, bp@alien8.de, dwmw@amazon.co.uk,
hpa@zytor.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
michal.lkml@markovi.net, tglx@linutronix.de,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, vkuznets@redhat.com,
yamada.masahiro@socionext.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/15] x86/kconfig/64: Enable popular scheduler, cgroups and namespaces options in the defconfig
Date: Wed, 7 May 2025 18:22:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aBuI36FCDbj20x28@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALOAHbDGSpDnzQ7AKiMci0708DwYr8gmruVGdJZ_Nt9rmnbxNg@mail.gmail.com>
* Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, May 7, 2025 at 3:06 PM Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > * Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Mingo,
> > >
> > > > +CONFIG_VIRT_CPU_ACCOUNTING_GEN=y
> > > > +CONFIG_IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING=y
> > >
> > > Enabling CONFIG_IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING=y can lead to user-visible behavioral
> > > changes. For more context, please refer to the related discussion here:
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20241222024734.63894-1-laoar.shao@gmail.com/ .
> >
> > Yeah. I actually agree with your series. It (re-)includes IRQ/softirq
> > time in task CPU usage statistics even under IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING=y,
> > while still keeping the finegrained IRQ/softirq statistics as well,
> > correct?
>
> Correct.
>
> >
> > The Kconfig option is also arguably rather misleading:
> >
> > config IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING
> > bool "Fine granularity task level IRQ time accounting"
> > depends on HAVE_IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING && !VIRT_CPU_ACCOUNTING_NATIVE
> > help
> > Select this option to enable fine granularity task irq time
> > accounting. This is done by reading a timestamp on each
> > transitions between softirq and hardirq state, so there can be a
> > small performance impact.
> >
> > It only warns about a small performance impact, but doesn't warn that
> > CPU accounting is changed in an incompatible fashion that surprises
> > tooling...
>
> Yes, this breaks our userspace tools.
Okay, so 2 out of your 3 fixes are upstream already:
763a744e24a8 ("sched: Don't account irq time if sched_clock_irqtime is disabled")
a6fd16148fdd ("sched, psi: Don't account irq time if sched_clock_irqtime is disabled")
But we don't have this one yet:
[PATCH v8 4/4] sched: Fix cgroup irq time for CONFIG_IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING
https://lore.kernel.org/r/20250103022409.2544-5-laoar.shao@gmail.com
which is also essential to fully fix the tooling regression, right?
I think this last patch fell between the cracks, I didn't see any
fundamental objections against the fix.
Since the patch does not apply cleanly anymore, mind sending a fresh
-v9 version against v6.15-rc5 or so?
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-07 16:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-06 17:09 [PATCH -v2 00/15] x86/kconfig: Enable various kernel features in the defconfig, add the 'x86_32' subarchitecture build target and misc cleanups Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 01/15] x86/kconfig/64: Refresh defconfig Ingo Molnar
2025-05-07 5:31 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-05-07 6:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 02/15] x86/kconfig/32: " Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 03/15] x86/kconfig: Rename x86_64_defconfig to defconfig.x86_64 and i386_defconfig to defconfig.i386 Ingo Molnar
2025-05-09 18:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-05-15 13:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 04/15] x86/kbuild: Introduce the 'x86_32' subarchitecture Ingo Molnar
2025-05-07 5:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-05-07 6:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-09 12:04 ` David Laight
2025-05-09 18:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-05-09 18:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 05/15] x86/kbuild: Remove ancient 'arch/i386/' and 'arch/x86_64/' directory removal 'archclean' target Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 06/15] x86/tools: insn_decoder_test.c: Emit standard build success messages Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 07/15] x86/tools: insn_sanity.c: " Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 08/15] x86/kconfig/64: Enable the KVM host in the defconfig Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 09/15] x86/kconfig/64: Enable more virtualization guest options in the defconfig: enable Xen, Xen_PVH, Jailhouse, ACRN, Intel TDX and Hyper-V Ingo Molnar
2025-05-08 9:21 ` Jürgen Groß
2025-05-15 13:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 10/15] x86/kconfig/64: Enable BPF support in the defconfig Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 11/15] x86/kconfig/64: Enable popular MM options " Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 12/15] x86/kconfig/64: Enable popular kernel debugging " Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 13/15] x86/kconfig/64: Enable popular scheduler, cgroups and namespaces " Ingo Molnar
2025-05-07 3:00 ` Yafang Shao
2025-05-07 7:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-07 11:42 ` Yafang Shao
2025-05-07 16:22 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2025-05-08 5:56 ` Yafang Shao
2025-05-22 5:49 ` Yafang Shao
2025-05-07 5:11 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-05-07 16:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-28 17:22 ` Michal Koutný
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 14/15] x86/kconfig/64: Enable popular generic kernel " Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 15/15] x86/kconfig/32: Synchronize the x86-32 defconfig to the x86-64 defconfig Ingo Molnar
2025-05-07 5:27 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-05-07 17:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-07 17:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-05-05 11:09 [PATCH 00/15] x86/kconfig: Enable various kernel features in the defconfig, add the 'x86_32' subarchitecture build target and misc cleanups Ingo Molnar
2025-05-05 11:09 ` [PATCH 13/15] x86/kconfig/64: Enable popular scheduler, cgroups and namespaces options in the defconfig Ingo Molnar
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