From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>
Cc: Zqiang <qiang.zhang1211@gmail.com>,
paulmck@kernel.org, neeraj.upadhyay@kernel.org,
joel@joelfernandes.org, urezki@gmail.com, boqun.feng@gmail.com,
rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] rcu/nocb: Add Safe checks for access offloaded rdp
Date: Wed, 7 May 2025 18:31:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aBuK29q6nuhTgHIq@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b242ab38-c488-450c-9735-11e1b666106c@nvidia.com>
Le Wed, May 07, 2025 at 12:06:29PM -0400, Joel Fernandes a écrit :
>
>
> On 5/7/2025 7:26 AM, Zqiang wrote:
> > For built with CONFIG_PROVE_RCU=y and CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT=y kernels,
> > Disable BH does not change the SOFTIRQ corresponding bits in
> > preempt_count(), but change current->softirq_disable_cnt, this
> > resulted in the following splat:
> >
> > WARNING: suspicious RCU usage
> > kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h:36 Unsafe read of RCU_NOCB offloaded state!
> > stack backtrace:
> > CPU: 0 UID: 0 PID: 22 Comm: rcuc/0
> > Call Trace:
> > [ 0.407907] <TASK>
> > [ 0.407910] dump_stack_lvl+0xbb/0xd0
> > [ 0.407917] dump_stack+0x14/0x20
> > [ 0.407920] lockdep_rcu_suspicious+0x133/0x210
> > [ 0.407932] rcu_rdp_is_offloaded+0x1c3/0x270
> > [ 0.407939] rcu_core+0x471/0x900
> > [ 0.407942] ? lockdep_hardirqs_on+0xd5/0x160
> > [ 0.407954] rcu_cpu_kthread+0x25f/0x870
> > [ 0.407959] ? __pfx_rcu_cpu_kthread+0x10/0x10
> > [ 0.407966] smpboot_thread_fn+0x34c/0xa50
> > [ 0.407970] ? trace_preempt_on+0x54/0x120
> > [ 0.407977] ? __pfx_smpboot_thread_fn+0x10/0x10
> > [ 0.407982] kthread+0x40e/0x840
> > [ 0.407990] ? __pfx_kthread+0x10/0x10
> > [ 0.407994] ? rt_spin_unlock+0x4e/0xb0
> > [ 0.407997] ? rt_spin_unlock+0x4e/0xb0
> > [ 0.408000] ? __pfx_kthread+0x10/0x10
> > [ 0.408006] ? __pfx_kthread+0x10/0x10
> > [ 0.408011] ret_from_fork+0x40/0x70
> > [ 0.408013] ? __pfx_kthread+0x10/0x10
> > [ 0.408018] ret_from_fork_asm+0x1a/0x30
> > [ 0.408042] </TASK>
> >
> > Currently, triggering an rdp offloaded state change need the
> > corresponding rdp's CPU goes offline, and at this time the rcuc
> > kthreads has already in parking state. this means the corresponding
> > rcuc kthreads can safely read offloaded state of rdp while it's
> > corresponding cpu is online.
> >
> > This commit therefore add softirq_count() check for
> > Preempt-RT kernels.
> >
> > Suggested-by: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Zqiang <qiang.zhang1211@gmail.com>
> > ---
> > kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h | 2 +-
> > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h b/kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h
> > index 003e549f6514..a91b2322a0cd 100644
> > --- a/kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h
> > +++ b/kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h
> > @@ -29,7 +29,7 @@ static bool rcu_rdp_is_offloaded(struct rcu_data *rdp)
> > (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU) && lockdep_is_cpus_held()) ||
> > lockdep_is_held(&rdp->nocb_lock) ||
> > lockdep_is_held(&rcu_state.nocb_mutex) ||
> > - (!(IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_COUNT) && preemptible()) &&
> > + ((!(IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_COUNT) && preemptible()) || softirq_count()) &&
> > rdp == this_cpu_ptr(&rcu_data)) ||
> This looks good to me. Frederic told me he'll further review and give final
> green signal. Then I'll pull this particular one.
>
> One thing I was wondering -- it would be really nice if preemptible() itself
> checked for softirq_count() by default. Or adding something like a
> really_preemptible() which checks for both CONFIG_PREEMPT_COUNT and
> softirq_count() along with preemptible(). I feel like this always comes back to
> bite us in different ways, and not knowing atomicity complicates various code paths.
>
> Maybe a summer holidays project? ;)
I thought about that too but I think this is semantically incorrect.
In PREEMPT_RT, softirqs are actually preemptible.
Thanks.
>
> - Joel
>
--
Frederic Weisbecker
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-07 16:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-07 11:26 [PATCH] rcutorture: Fix rcutorture_one_extend_check() splat in RT kernels Zqiang
2025-05-07 11:26 ` [PATCH v2] rcu/nocb: Add Safe checks for access offloaded rdp Zqiang
2025-05-07 16:06 ` Joel Fernandes
2025-05-07 16:31 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2025-05-07 16:52 ` Joel Fernandes
2025-05-07 16:25 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-05-08 6:43 ` Z qiang
2025-05-08 13:03 ` Z qiang
2025-05-09 13:33 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-05-09 18:56 ` Joel Fernandes
2025-05-07 11:26 ` [PATCH] rcu/nocb: Fix possible invalid rdp's->nocb_cb_kthread pointer access Zqiang
2025-05-08 21:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-09 3:32 ` Z qiang
2025-05-09 3:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-09 19:07 ` Joel Fernandes
2025-05-09 19:11 ` Joel Fernandes
2025-05-16 8:15 ` Z qiang
2025-07-08 13:54 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-05-07 21:04 ` [PATCH] rcutorture: Fix rcutorture_one_extend_check() splat in RT kernels Paul E. McKenney
2025-05-09 19:14 ` Joel Fernandes
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