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From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
To: Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>
Cc: "Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo" <acme@kernel.org>,
	"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"Alexander Shishkin" <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	"Jiri Olsa" <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	"Adrian Hunter" <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	"Kan Liang" <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>,
	"Athira Rajeev" <atrajeev@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Kajol Jain" <kjain@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Li Huafei" <lihuafei1@huawei.com>,
	"Steinar H. Gunderson" <sesse@google.com>,
	"James Clark" <james.clark@linaro.org>,
	"Stephen Brennan" <stephen.s.brennan@oracle.com>,
	"Andi Kleen" <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	"Dmitry Vyukov" <dvyukov@google.com>,
	"Zhongqiu Han" <quic_zhonhan@quicinc.com>,
	"Yicong Yang" <yangyicong@hisilicon.com>,
	"Krzysztof Łopatowski" <krzysztof.m.lopatowski@gmail.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <linux@treblig.org>,
	"Zixian Cai" <fzczx123@gmail.com>,
	"Steve Clevenger" <scclevenger@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	"Thomas Falcon" <thomas.falcon@intel.com>,
	"Martin Liska" <martin.liska@hey.com>,
	"Martin Liška" <m.liska@foxlink.cz>, "Song Liu" <song@kernel.org>,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 5/9] perf build-id: Mark DSO in sample callchains
Date: Wed, 28 May 2025 15:16:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aDeLLvBVQnQqJT4b@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP-5=fV-cLLpdyoqL8+Jrt3iYU7EbpZZDOyM1kBCc+54gA2Nzg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 01:54:41PM -0700, Ian Rogers wrote:
> On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 1:41 PM Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 02:34:04PM -0700, Ian Rogers wrote:
> > > Previously only the sample IP's map DSO would be marked hit for the
> > > purposes of populating the build ID cache. Walk the call chain to mark
> > > all IPs and DSOs.
> >
> > I think this is correct, but I'm afraid it'd also increase the processing
> > time.  Do you happen to have any numbers?
> 
> It increases time spent processing the data file but to get a large
> data file I had to run for multiple seconds and I struggled to get the
> performance cost of this to be in the milliseconds (ie a tiny fraction
> of the record time). Ultimately I found the change imperceptible and
> couldn't think of a good command line to make it perceptible.

The worst case would be dwarf unwinding.  Maybe we can skip the
processing if it takes too long..

> 
> If the time is spent populating ~/.debug because more DSOs are marked
> then this is fixing a bug and isn't a problem with the patch.

Right, it's a good thing.

> 
> My personal opinion is that it is somewhat surprising `perf record` is
> post-processing the perf.data file at all, and -B and -N would be my
> expected defaults - just as --buildid-mmap implies --no-buildid (-B).

Otherwise nobody will run perf buildid-cache to add the info. :)


> I didn't want to modify existing behaviors in these changes, however,
> in this case I was just trying to make the existing behavior correct,
> similar to fixing the same bug in `perf inject`.

Thanks for your work,
Namhyung


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-28 22:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-28 21:33 [PATCH v3 0/9] perf: Default use of build IDs and improvements Ian Rogers
2025-04-28 21:34 ` [PATCH v3 1/9] perf callchain: Always populate the addr_location map when adding IP Ian Rogers
2025-04-28 21:34 ` [PATCH v3 2/9] perf build-id: Reduce size of "size" variable Ian Rogers
2025-04-28 21:34 ` [PATCH v3 3/9] perf build-id: Truncate to avoid overflowing the build_id data Ian Rogers
2025-04-28 21:34 ` [PATCH v3 4/9] perf build-id: Change sprintf functions to snprintf Ian Rogers
2025-04-28 21:34 ` [PATCH v3 5/9] perf build-id: Mark DSO in sample callchains Ian Rogers
2025-05-28 20:41   ` Namhyung Kim
2025-05-28 20:54     ` Ian Rogers
2025-05-28 22:16       ` Namhyung Kim [this message]
2025-05-28 23:11         ` Ian Rogers
2025-05-29 20:53           ` Namhyung Kim
2025-04-28 21:34 ` [PATCH v3 6/9] perf build-id: Ensure struct build_id is empty before use Ian Rogers
2025-04-28 21:34 ` [PATCH v3 7/9] perf dso: Move build_id to dso_id Ian Rogers
2025-04-28 21:34 ` [PATCH v3 8/9] perf jitdump: Directly mark the jitdump DSO Ian Rogers
2025-04-28 21:34 ` [PATCH v3 9/9] perf record: Make --buildid-mmap the default Ian Rogers
2025-05-28 20:38   ` Namhyung Kim
2025-05-28 20:47     ` Ian Rogers
2025-05-28 23:56       ` Namhyung Kim
2025-05-27 20:48 ` [PATCH v3 0/9] perf: Default use of build IDs and improvements Ian Rogers
2025-05-28 18:48   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-05-28 18:58     ` Ian Rogers

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