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From: Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>
To: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
Cc: "Simona Vetter" <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Philipp Stanner" <phasta@kernel.org>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/sched: Discourage usage of separate workqueues
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2025 10:10:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aEB9/VGHJGnY4+fP@lstrano-desk.jf.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aEB6GOTlC_Z_Rq8b@cassiopeiae>

On Wed, Jun 04, 2025 at 06:53:44PM +0200, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 04, 2025 at 09:45:00AM -0700, Matthew Brost wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 04, 2025 at 05:07:15PM +0200, Simona Vetter wrote:
> > > We should definitely document this trick better though, I didn't find any
> > > place where that was documented.
> > 
> > This is a good idea.
> 
> I think - and I also mentioned this a few times in the patch series that added
> the workqueue support - we should also really document the pitfalls of this.
> 
> If the scheduler shares a workqueue with the driver, the driver needs to take
> special care when submitting work that it's not possible to prevent run_job and
> free_job work from running by doing this.
> 
> For instance, if it's a single threaded workqueue and the driver submits work
> that allocates with GFP_KERNEL, this is a deadlock condition.
> 
> More generally, if the driver submits N work that, for instance allocates with
> GFP_KERNEL, it's also a deadlock condition if N == max_active.

Can we prime lockdep on scheduler init? e.g.

fs_reclaim_acquire(GFP_KERNEL);
workqueue_lockdep_acquire();
workqueue_lockdep_release();
fs_reclaim_release(GFP_KERNEL);

In addition to documentation, this would prevent workqueues from being
used that allocate with GFP_KERNEL.

Maybe we could use dma_fence_sigaling annotations instead of
fs_reclaim_acquire, but at one point those gave Xe false lockdep
positives so use fs_reclaim_acquire in similar cases. Maybe that has
been fixed though.

Matt

  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-04 17:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-04  8:16 [PATCH] drm/sched: Discourage usage of separate workqueues Philipp Stanner
2025-06-04  9:41 ` Christian König
2025-06-04 15:07   ` Simona Vetter
2025-06-04 16:45     ` Matthew Brost
2025-06-04 16:53       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-04 17:10         ` Matthew Brost [this message]
2025-06-06 14:08           ` Simona Vetter
2025-06-05  9:59     ` Philipp Stanner

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