From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Benno Lossin <lossin@kernel.org>
Cc: "Onur Özkan" <work@onurozkan.dev>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
ojeda@kernel.org, alex.gaynor@gmail.com, gary@garyguo.net,
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daniel@sedlak.dev, bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com, simona@ffwll.ch,
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lyude@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/3] implement ww_mutex abstraction for the Rust tree
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 10:11:12 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aFmKsE_nJkaVMv0T@tardis.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DAU0ELV91E2Q.35FZOII18W44J@kernel.org>
On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 05:14:37PM +0200, Benno Lossin wrote:
> On Mon Jun 23, 2025 at 4:47 PM CEST, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 03:44:58PM +0200, Benno Lossin wrote:
> >> I didn't have a concrete API in mind, but after having read the
> >> abstractions more, would this make sense?
> >>
> >> let ctx: &WwAcquireCtx = ...;
> >> let m1: &WwMutex<T> = ...;
> >> let m2: &WwMutex<Foo> = ...;
> >>
> >> let (t, foo, foo2) = ctx
> >> .begin()
> >> .lock(m1)
> >> .lock(m2)
> >> .lock_with(|(t, foo)| &*foo.other)
> >> .finish();
> >>
> >
> > Cute!
> >
> > However, each `.lock()` will need to be polymorphic over a tuple of
> > locks that are already held, right? Otherwise I don't see how
> > `.lock_with()` knows it's already held two locks. That sounds like a
> > challenge for implementation.
>
> I think it's doable if we have
>
> impl WwActiveCtx {
I think you mean *WwAcquireCtx*
> fn begin(&self) -> WwActiveCtx<'_, ()>;
> }
>
> struct WwActiveCtx<'a, Locks> {
> locks: Locks,
This probably need to to be Result<Locks>, because we may detect
-DEADLOCK in the middle.
let (a, c, d) = ctx.begin()
.lock(a)
.lock(b) // <- `b` may be locked by someone else. So we should
// drop `a` and switch `locks` to an `Err(_)`.
.lock(c) // <- this should be a no-op if `locks` is an `Err(_)`.
.finish();
> _ctx: PhantomData<&'a WwAcquireCtx>,
We can still take a reference to WwAcquireCtx here I think.
> }
>
> impl<'a, Locks> WwActiveCtx<'a, Locks>
> where
> Locks: Tuple
> {
> fn lock<'b, T>(
> self,
> lock: &'b WwMutex<T>,
> ) -> WwActiveCtx<'a, Locks::Append<WwMutexGuard<'b, T>>>;
>
> fn lock_with<'b, T>(
> self,
> get_lock: impl FnOnce(&Locks) -> &'b WwMutex<T>,
> ) -> WwActiveCtx<'a, Locks::Append<WwMutexGuard<'b, T>>>;
> // I'm not 100% sure that the lifetimes will work out...
I think we can make the following work?
impl<'a, Locks> WwActiveCtx<'a, Locks>
where
Locks: Tuple
{
fn lock_with<T>(
self,
get_lock: impl FnOnce(&Locks) -> &WmMutex<T>,
) -> WwActiveCtx<'a, Locks::Append<WmMutexGuard<'a, T>>
}
because with a `WwActiveCtx<'a, Locks>`, we can get a `&'a Locks`, which
will give us a `&'a WmMutex<T>`, and should be able to give us a
`WmMutexGuard<'a, T>`.
>
> fn finish(self) -> Locks;
> }
>
> trait Tuple {
> type Append<T>;
>
> fn append<T>(self, value: T) -> Self::Append<T>;
> }
>
`Tuple` is good enough for its own, if you could remember, we have some
ideas about using things like this to consolidate multiple `RcuOld` so
that we can do one `synchronize_rcu()` for `RcuOld`s.
> impl Tuple for () {
> type Append<T> = (T,);
>
> fn append<T>(self, value: T) -> Self::Append<T> {
> (value,)
> }
> }
>
> impl<T1> Tuple for (T1,) {
> type Append<T> = (T1, T);
>
> fn append<T>(self, value: T) -> Self::Append<T> {
> (self.0, value,)
> }
> }
>
> impl<T1, T2> Tuple for (T1, T2) {
> type Append<T> = (T1, T2, T);
>
> fn append<T>(self, value: T) -> Self::Append<T> {
> (self.0, self.1, value,)
> }
> }
>
> /* these can easily be generated by a macro */
>
> > We also need to take into consideration that the user want to drop any
> > lock in the sequence? E.g. the user acquires a, b and c, and then drop
> > b, and then acquires d. Which I think is possible for ww_mutex.
>
> Hmm what about adding this to the above idea?:
>
> impl<'a, Locks> WwActiveCtx<'a, Locks>
> where
> Locks: Tuple
> {
> fn custom<L2>(self, action: impl FnOnce(Locks) -> L2) -> WwActiveCtx<'a, L2>;
> }
>
> Then you can do:
>
> let (a, c, d) = ctx.begin()
> .lock(a)
> .lock(b)
> .lock(c)
> .custom(|(a, _, c)| (a, c))
> .lock(d)
> .finish();
>
Seems reasonable. But we still need to present this to the end user to
see how much they like it. For ww_mutex I think the major user is DRM,
so add them into Cc list.
Regards,
Boqun
> >> let _: &mut T = t;
> >> let _: &mut Foo = foo;
> >> let _: &mut Foo = foo2;
>
> Ah these will actually be `WwMutexGuard<'_, ...>`, but that should be
> expected.
>
> ---
> Cheers,
> Benno
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-23 17:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-21 18:44 [PATCH v5 0/3] rust: add `ww_mutex` support Onur Özkan
2025-06-21 18:44 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] rust: add C wrappers for `ww_mutex` inline functions Onur Özkan
2025-06-21 18:44 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] implement ww_mutex abstraction for the Rust tree Onur Özkan
2025-06-22 9:18 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23 13:04 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-23 13:44 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23 14:47 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-23 15:14 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23 17:11 ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2025-06-23 23:22 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-24 5:34 ` Onur
2025-06-24 8:20 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-24 12:31 ` Onur
2025-06-24 12:48 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-07 13:39 ` Onur
2025-07-07 15:31 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-07 18:06 ` Onur
2025-07-07 19:48 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-08 14:21 ` Onur
2025-08-01 21:22 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-02 10:42 ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-02 13:41 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-08-02 14:15 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-02 20:58 ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-05 15:18 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-05 9:08 ` Onur Özkan
2025-08-05 12:41 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-05 13:50 ` Onur Özkan
2025-06-23 11:51 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-06-23 13:26 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-23 18:17 ` Onur
2025-06-23 21:54 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-21 18:44 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] add KUnit coverage on Rust `ww_mutex` implementation Onur Özkan
2025-06-22 9:16 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] rust: add `ww_mutex` support Benno Lossin
2025-07-24 13:53 ` Onur Özkan
2025-07-29 17:15 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-30 10:24 ` Onur Özkan
2025-07-30 10:55 ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-05 16:22 ` Lyude Paul
2025-08-05 17:56 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-06 5:57 ` Onur Özkan
2025-08-06 17:37 ` Lyude Paul
2025-08-06 19:30 ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-14 11:13 ` Onur Özkan
2025-08-14 12:38 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-14 15:56 ` Onur
2025-08-14 18:22 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-18 12:56 ` Onur Özkan
2025-09-01 10:05 ` Onur Özkan
2025-09-01 12:28 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-09-02 16:53 ` Onur
2025-09-03 6:24 ` Onur
2025-09-03 13:04 ` Daniel Almeida
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