From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
Cc: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
lkmm@lists.linux.dev, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
"Wedson Almeida Filho" <wedsonaf@gmail.com>,
"Viresh Kumar" <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
"Lyude Paul" <lyude@redhat.com>, "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>,
"Mitchell Levy" <levymitchell0@gmail.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 3/9] rust: sync: atomic: Add ordering annotation types
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2025 07:42:56 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aG_RcB0tcdnkE_v4@Mac.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v7o0i7b8.fsf@kernel.org>
On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 02:00:59PM +0200, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
> "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org> writes:
>
> > On Thu Jul 10, 2025 at 8:00 AM CEST, Boqun Feng wrote:
> >> Preparation for atomic primitives. Instead of a suffix like _acquire, a
> >> method parameter along with the corresponding generic parameter will be
> >> used to specify the ordering of an atomic operations. For example,
> >> atomic load() can be defined as:
> >>
> >> impl<T: ...> Atomic<T> {
> >> pub fn load<O: AcquireOrRelaxed>(&self, _o: O) -> T { ... }
> >> }
> >>
> >> and acquire users would do:
> >>
> >> let r = x.load(Acquire);
> >>
> >> relaxed users:
> >>
> >> let r = x.load(Relaxed);
> >>
> >> doing the following:
> >>
> >> let r = x.load(Release);
> >>
> >> will cause a compiler error.
> >>
> >> Compared to suffixes, it's easier to tell what ordering variants an
> >> operation has, and it also make it easier to unify the implementation of
> >> all ordering variants in one method via generic. The `TYPE` associate
> >> const is for generic function to pick up the particular implementation
> >> specified by an ordering annotation.
> >>
> >> Reviewed-by: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
> >> Signed-off-by: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> >
> > One naming comment below, with that fixed:
> >
> > Reviewed-by: Benno Lossin <lossin@kernel.org>
> >
> >> ---
> >> rust/kernel/sync/atomic.rs | 3 +
> >> rust/kernel/sync/atomic/ordering.rs | 97 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> 2 files changed, 100 insertions(+)
> >> create mode 100644 rust/kernel/sync/atomic/ordering.rs
> >
> >> +/// The trait bound for annotating operations that support any ordering.
> >> +pub trait Any: internal::Sealed {
> >
> > I don't like the name `Any`, how about `AnyOrdering`? Otherwise we
> > should require people to write `ordering::Any` because otherwise it's
> > pretty confusing.
>
> I agree with this observation.
>
I'm OK to do the change, but let me show my arguments ;-)
* First, we are using a language that supports namespaces,
so I feel it's a bit unnecessary to use a different name just because
it conflicts with `core::any::Any`. Doing so kinda undermines the
namespace concepts. And we may have other `Any`s in the future, are we
sure at the moment we should keyword `Any`?
* Another thing is that this trait won't be used very often outside
definition of functions that having ordering variants, currently the
only users are all inside atomic/generic.rs.
I probably choose the `ordering::Any` approach if you guys insist.
Regards,
Boqun
>
> Best regards,
> Andreas Hindborg
>
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-10 14:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-10 6:00 [PATCH v6 0/9] LKMM generic atomics in Rust Boqun Feng
2025-07-10 6:00 ` [PATCH v6 1/9] rust: Introduce atomic API helpers Boqun Feng
2025-07-10 6:00 ` [PATCH v6 2/9] rust: sync: Add basic atomic operation mapping framework Boqun Feng
2025-07-10 11:04 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-10 15:12 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-10 15:46 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-10 16:16 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-10 19:21 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-10 20:29 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-11 8:15 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-10 6:00 ` [PATCH v6 3/9] rust: sync: atomic: Add ordering annotation types Boqun Feng
2025-07-10 11:08 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-10 12:00 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-07-10 14:42 ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2025-07-10 15:05 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-10 15:57 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-10 19:19 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-10 18:32 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-10 19:06 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-10 6:00 ` [PATCH v6 4/9] rust: sync: atomic: Add generic atomics Boqun Feng
2025-07-11 8:03 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-11 13:22 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-11 13:34 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-11 13:51 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-11 18:34 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-11 21:25 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-11 13:58 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-11 18:35 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-14 7:08 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-13 19:51 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-10 6:00 ` [PATCH v6 5/9] rust: sync: atomic: Add atomic {cmp,}xchg operations Boqun Feng
2025-07-11 8:42 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-10 6:00 ` [PATCH v6 6/9] rust: sync: atomic: Add the framework of arithmetic operations Boqun Feng
2025-07-11 8:53 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-11 14:39 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-11 17:41 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-11 19:07 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-11 18:55 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-11 19:51 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-11 21:03 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-11 21:22 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-14 4:20 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-10 6:00 ` [PATCH v6 7/9] rust: sync: atomic: Add Atomic<u{32,64}> Boqun Feng
2025-07-11 8:54 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-10 6:00 ` [PATCH v6 8/9] rust: sync: Add memory barriers Boqun Feng
2025-07-11 8:57 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-11 13:32 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-11 18:57 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-11 19:26 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-11 21:04 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-11 21:34 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-11 18:20 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-14 15:42 ` Ralf Jung
2025-07-15 15:21 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-15 15:35 ` Ralf Jung
2025-07-15 15:56 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-16 19:42 ` Ralf Jung
2025-07-10 6:00 ` [PATCH v6 9/9] rust: sync: atomic: Add Atomic<{usize,isize}> Boqun Feng
2025-07-11 9:00 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-11 13:45 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-11 14:07 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-11 14:40 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-11 15:46 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-11 18:35 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-11 19:05 ` Benno Lossin
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