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From: Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>
To: "Mika Penttilä" <mpenttil@redhat.com>
Cc: Francois Dugast <francois.dugast@intel.com>, <airlied@gmail.com>,
	<akpm@linux-foundation.org>, <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	<baohua@kernel.org>, <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	<dakr@kernel.org>, <david@redhat.com>, <donettom@linux.ibm.com>,
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	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	<lyude@redhat.com>, <peterx@redhat.com>, <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	<shuah@kernel.org>, <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	<wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>, <willy@infradead.org>,
	<ziy@nvidia.com>, Balbir Singh <balbirs@nvidia.com>,
	<jgg@nvidia.com>, Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/hmm: Do not fault in device private pages owned by the caller
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2025 22:57:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aIHLWnjzKWma1NLC@lstrano-desk.jf.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dad71615-0eba-4a8d-abfc-979fb815511c@redhat.com>

On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 08:46:11AM +0300, Mika Penttilä wrote:
> 
> On 7/24/25 08:02, Matthew Brost wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 10:25:11AM +1000, Balbir Singh wrote:
> >> On 7/23/25 05:34, Francois Dugast wrote:
> >>> When the PMD swap entry is device private and owned by the caller,
> >>> skip the range faulting and instead just set the correct HMM PFNs.
> >>> This is similar to the logic for PTEs in hmm_vma_handle_pte().
> >>>
> >>> For now, each hmm_pfns[i] entry is populated as it is currently done
> >>> in hmm_vma_handle_pmd() but this might not be necessary. A follow-up
> >>> optimization could be to make use of the order and skip populating
> >>> subsequent PFNs.
> >> I think we should test and remove these now
> >>
> > +Jason, Leon – perhaps either of you can provide insight into why
> > hmm_vma_handle_pmd fully populates the HMM PFNs when a higher-order page
> > is found.
> >
> > If we can be assured that changing this won’t break other parts of the
> > kernel, I agree it should be removed. A snippet of documentation should
> > also be added indicating that when higher-order PFNs are found,
> > subsequent PFNs within the range will remain unpopulated. I can verify
> > that GPU SVM works just fine without these PFNs being populated.
> 
> afaics the device can consume the range as smaller pages also, and some
> hmm users depend on that.
> 

Sure, but I think that should be fixed in the device code. If a
large-order PFN is found, the subsequent PFNs can clearly be inferred.
It's a micro-optimization here, but devices or callers capable of
handling this properly shouldn't force a hacky, less optimal behavior on
core code. If anything relies on the current behavior, we should fix it
and ensure correctness.

Matt

> 
> > Matt
> 
> 
> --Mika
> 
> 
> >
> >>> Signed-off-by: Francois Dugast <francois.dugast@intel.com>
> >>> ---
> >>>  mm/hmm.c | 25 +++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>  1 file changed, 25 insertions(+)
> >>>
> >>> diff --git a/mm/hmm.c b/mm/hmm.c
> >>> index f2415b4b2cdd..63ec1b18a656 100644
> >>> --- a/mm/hmm.c
> >>> +++ b/mm/hmm.c
> >>> @@ -355,6 +355,31 @@ static int hmm_vma_walk_pmd(pmd_t *pmdp,
> >>>  	}
> >>>  
> >>>  	if (!pmd_present(pmd)) {
> >>> +		swp_entry_t entry = pmd_to_swp_entry(pmd);
> >>> +
> >>> +		/*
> >>> +		 * Don't fault in device private pages owned by the caller,
> >>> +		 * just report the PFNs.
> >>> +		 */
> >>> +		if (is_device_private_entry(entry) &&
> >>> +		    pfn_swap_entry_folio(entry)->pgmap->owner ==
> >>> +		    range->dev_private_owner) {
> >>> +			unsigned long cpu_flags = HMM_PFN_VALID |
> >>> +				hmm_pfn_flags_order(PMD_SHIFT - PAGE_SHIFT);
> >>> +			unsigned long pfn = swp_offset_pfn(entry);
> >>> +			unsigned long i;
> >>> +
> >>> +			if (is_writable_device_private_entry(entry))
> >>> +				cpu_flags |= HMM_PFN_WRITE;
> >>> +
> >>> +			for (i = 0; addr < end; addr += PAGE_SIZE, i++, pfn++) {
> >>> +				hmm_pfns[i] &= HMM_PFN_INOUT_FLAGS;
> >>> +				hmm_pfns[i] |= pfn | cpu_flags;
> >>> +			}
> >>> +
> >> As discussed, can we remove these.
> >>
> >>> +			return 0;
> >>> +		}
> >> All of this be under CONFIG_ARCH_ENABLE_THP_MIGRATION
> >>
> >>> +
> >>>  		if (hmm_range_need_fault(hmm_vma_walk, hmm_pfns, npages, 0))
> >>>  			return -EFAULT;
> >>>  		return hmm_pfns_fill(start, end, range, HMM_PFN_ERROR);
> >>
> >>
> >> Balbir Singh
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-24  5:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-03 23:34 [v1 resend 00/12] THP support for zone device page migration Balbir Singh
2025-07-03 23:35 ` [v1 resend 01/12] mm/zone_device: support large zone device private folios Balbir Singh
2025-07-07  5:28   ` Alistair Popple
2025-07-08  6:47     ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-03 23:35 ` [v1 resend 02/12] mm/migrate_device: flags for selecting device private THP pages Balbir Singh
2025-07-07  5:31   ` Alistair Popple
2025-07-08  7:31     ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-19 20:06       ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-19 20:16         ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-18  3:15   ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-03 23:35 ` [v1 resend 03/12] mm/thp: zone_device awareness in THP handling code Balbir Singh
2025-07-04  4:46   ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-06  1:21     ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-04 11:10   ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-05  0:14     ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-07  6:09       ` Alistair Popple
2025-07-08  7:40         ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-07  3:49   ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-08  4:20     ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-08  4:30       ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-07  6:07   ` Alistair Popple
2025-07-08  4:59     ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-22  4:42   ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-03 23:35 ` [v1 resend 04/12] mm/migrate_device: THP migration of zone device pages Balbir Singh
2025-07-04 15:35   ` kernel test robot
2025-07-18  6:59   ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-18  7:04     ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-18  7:21       ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-18  8:22         ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-22  4:54           ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-19  2:10   ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-03 23:35 ` [v1 resend 05/12] mm/memory/fault: add support for zone device THP fault handling Balbir Singh
2025-07-17 19:34   ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-03 23:35 ` [v1 resend 06/12] lib/test_hmm: test cases and support for zone device private THP Balbir Singh
2025-07-03 23:35 ` [v1 resend 07/12] mm/memremap: add folio_split support Balbir Singh
2025-07-04 11:14   ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-06  1:24     ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-03 23:35 ` [v1 resend 08/12] mm/thp: add split during migration support Balbir Singh
2025-07-04  5:17   ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-04  6:43     ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-05  0:26       ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-05  3:17         ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-07  2:35           ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-07  3:29             ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-08  7:37               ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-04 11:24   ` Zi Yan
2025-07-05  0:58     ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-05  1:55       ` Zi Yan
2025-07-06  1:15         ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-06  1:34           ` Zi Yan
2025-07-06  1:47             ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-06  2:34               ` Zi Yan
2025-07-06  3:03                 ` Zi Yan
2025-07-07  2:29                   ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-07  2:45                     ` Zi Yan
2025-07-08  3:31                       ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-08  7:43                       ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-16  5:34               ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-16 11:19                 ` Zi Yan
2025-07-16 16:24                   ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-16 21:53                     ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-17 22:24                       ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-17 23:04                         ` Zi Yan
2025-07-18  0:41                           ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-18  1:25                             ` Zi Yan
2025-07-18  3:33                               ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-18 15:06                                 ` Zi Yan
2025-07-23  0:00                                   ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-03 23:35 ` [v1 resend 09/12] lib/test_hmm: add test case for split pages Balbir Singh
2025-07-03 23:35 ` [v1 resend 10/12] selftests/mm/hmm-tests: new tests for zone device THP migration Balbir Singh
2025-07-03 23:35 ` [v1 resend 11/12] gpu/drm/nouveau: add THP migration support Balbir Singh
2025-07-03 23:35 ` [v1 resend 12/12] selftests/mm/hmm-tests: new throughput tests including THP Balbir Singh
2025-07-04 16:16 ` [v1 resend 00/12] THP support for zone device page migration Zi Yan
2025-07-04 23:56   ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-08 14:53 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-08 22:43   ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-17 23:40 ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-18  3:57   ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-18  4:57     ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-21 23:48       ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-22  0:07         ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-22  0:51           ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-19  0:53     ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-21 11:42     ` Francois Dugast
2025-07-21 23:34       ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-22  0:01         ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-22 19:34         ` [PATCH] mm/hmm: Do not fault in device private pages owned by the caller Francois Dugast
2025-07-22 20:07           ` Andrew Morton
2025-07-23 15:34             ` Francois Dugast
2025-07-23 18:05               ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-24  0:25           ` Balbir Singh
2025-07-24  5:02             ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-24  5:46               ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-24  5:57                 ` Matthew Brost [this message]
2025-07-24  6:04                   ` Mika Penttilä
2025-07-24  6:47                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-07-28 13:34               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-08  0:21           ` Matthew Brost
2025-08-08  9:43             ` Francois Dugast

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