From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from casper.infradead.org (casper.infradead.org [90.155.50.34]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 971871C2324; Sat, 9 Aug 2025 23:01:28 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=90.155.50.34 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1754780491; cv=none; b=hef4NVK4k5nUreT2y6GsPysDb3xLfhj+sKUwLUx+x/GyHW41NdAu2IvD0mT7wSc5Vtpp8x+UU5n2sGE1/kUIdr/WVrK0SzrYId4L2GL12goITkUjZL3mgter53b5YayeSzFZ6J/FWJvRDFYZeYP/wvJLEqfX1d5KO2gGtoWJ8J0= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1754780491; c=relaxed/simple; bh=If17jhKfTfvnCrbpdWWKlNj01AnvZXZylbmRi/I12RU=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=aNnJ/3J1/uOJ0PaBasY1N+ioXGfC7mCDdc15A/LzkzNid8ZtF0rk0GDMGA9LjT3tUwuWpH4XDaR7IT7fMwbaBWYUL/aBP31zLvU2akridkYUaljI51vUEtKrvY8n3qEKSIyVyh3k2F9jCcPjyJNIFUWuzKyiqCBLcE/f6/NJvWE= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=infradead.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=infradead.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=infradead.org header.i=@infradead.org header.b=T7m+UkYw; arc=none smtp.client-ip=90.155.50.34 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=infradead.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=infradead.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=infradead.org header.i=@infradead.org header.b="T7m+UkYw" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=casper.20170209; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version: References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=+GHbL+2thnDTAchEhJDBnLOieaRoTv86wX69IAATfFE=; b=T7m+UkYwdpn1IGrDs8M6co92C0 TmJrfLYHXV8vKDyuQMkNXNOanLqnUcpHmVK7nUMPM2MqxYNtX56R2DpLiebN5H3NfyMdMX+lCnpCL amcOLur3bN3YWHgZTO0nnTb5mK02hfVggHRztHSbj0Yfnm67qvKUd3w1neFGX8q8txgOeGBhZFLtS dfOtbC8mgpfiX7FB60Q6jgYpQrhV8FRcQiySKh3eXVBKZLkzkJUi8XsO92NPq4IcWDU4E/sSaqbkB M5K2DzAq90J4J+YWdib7tdPhlRKtZQrzR+thrd3Y200W1TgbDh/3ae5Pt5+aZQZ2eEiMXXYodXNx7 vBZ6vKHQ==; Received: from willy by casper.infradead.org with local (Exim 4.98.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1uksYw-00000009owE-3Qhe; Sat, 09 Aug 2025 23:01:18 +0000 Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2025 00:01:18 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox To: Kent Overstreet Cc: Aquinas Admin , Malte =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= , Linus Torvalds , "Carl E. Thompson" , linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] bcachefs changes for 6.17 Message-ID: References: <22ib5scviwwa7bqeln22w2xm3dlywc4yuactrddhmsntixnghr@wjmmbpxjvipv> <1869778184.298.1754433695609@mail.carlthompson.net> <5909824.DvuYhMxLoT@woolf> <3ik3h6hfm4v2y3rtpjshk5y4wlm5n366overw2lp72qk5izizw@k6vxp22uwnwa> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3ik3h6hfm4v2y3rtpjshk5y4wlm5n366overw2lp72qk5izizw@k6vxp22uwnwa> On Sat, Aug 09, 2025 at 01:36:39PM -0400, Kent Overstreet wrote: > Yes, this is accurate. I've been getting entirely too many emails from > Linus about how pissed off everyone is, completely absent of details - > or anything engineering related, for that matter. Lots of "you need to > work with us better" - i.e. bend to demands - without being willing to > put forth an argument that stands to scrutiny. Kent, if you genuinely don't understand by now what it is that you do that pisses people off, find someone you trust and get them to explain it to you. I've tried. Other people have tried. You react by dismissing and insulting us, then pretending months later that you've done nothing wrong. Now you've pissed off Linus and he has ultimate power to decide to accept your pull requests or not ... and he's decided not to. You had a lot of chances to fix your behaviour before it got to this point. It's sad that you chose not to take any of them. Can you really not see the difference between, eg Palmer's response here: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/mhng-655602B8-F102-4B0F-AF4A-4AB94A9F231F@Palmers-Mini.rwc.dabbelt.com/ and your response whenever Linus dares to critique even the smallest parts of your pull requests? [pointless attempt to divert the conversation to engineering snipped]