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From: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
To: Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>
Cc: Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	KP Singh <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
	Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@fomichev.me>, Hao Luo <haoluo@google.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>, David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] bpf: Mark kfuncs as __noclone
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2025 07:41:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aK6aiEbgYaI9K-pt@gpd4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45c49b4eedc6038d350f61572e5eed9f183b781b.camel@gmail.com>

On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 10:02:31PM -0700, Eduard Zingerman wrote:
> On Tue, 2025-08-26 at 13:17 -0700, Yonghong Song wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > I tried with gcc14 and can reproduced the issue described in the above.
> > I build the kernel like below with gcc14
> >    make KCFLAGS='-O3' -j
> > and get the following build error
> >    WARN: resolve_btfids: unresolved symbol bpf_strnchr
> >    make[2]: *** [/home/yhs/work/bpf-next/scripts/Makefile.vmlinux:91: vmlinux] Error 255
> >    make[2]: *** Deleting file 'vmlinux'
> > Checking the symbol table:
> >     22276: ffffffff81b15260   249 FUNC    LOCAL  DEFAULT    1 bpf_strnchr.cons[...]
> >    235128: ffffffff81b1f540   296 FUNC    GLOBAL DEFAULT    1 bpf_strnchr
> > and the disasm code:
> >    bpf_strnchr:
> >      ...
> > 
> >    bpf_strchr:
> >      ...
> >      bpf_strnchr.constprop.0
> >      ...
> > 
> > So in symbol table, we have both bpf_strnchr.constprop.0 and bpf_strnchr.
> > For such case, pahole will skip func bpf_strnchr hence the above resolve_btfids
> > failure.
> > 
> > The solution in this patch can indeed resolve this issue.
> 
> It looks like instead of adding __noclone there is an option to
> improve pahole's filtering of ambiguous functions.
> Abstractly, there is nothing wrong with having a clone of a global
> function that has undergone additional optimizations. As long as the
> original symbol exists, everything should be fine.
> 
> Since kfuncs are global, this should guarantee that the compiler does not
> change their signature, correct? Does this also hold for LTO builds?
> If so, when pahole sees a set of symbols like [foo, foo.1, foo.2, ...],
> with 'foo' being global and the rest local, then there is no real need
> to filter out 'foo'.
> 
> Wdyt?

I think we should do both: fix resolve_btfids to ignore compiler
optimization suffixes (.isra., .constprop., .part., .cold, ...) and add
__noclone.

This feels like the safest path IMHO. Fixing resolve_btfids alone works
with current compilers, but future compiler versions, under aggressive
IPA/LTO optimizations, might decide that the main global symbol is
redundant and drop it altogether, leading to similar issues.

Basically, fixing the tool makes the BTF pipeline more robust, adding
__noclone also makes the exported symbols themselves more robust,
regardless of compiler optimizations.

Thanks,
-Andrea

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-27  5:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-22 14:05 [PATCH] bpf: Mark kfuncs as __noclone Andrea Righi
2025-08-26 20:17 ` Yonghong Song
2025-08-27  5:02   ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-08-27  5:41     ` Andrea Righi [this message]
2025-08-27  6:52       ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-08-27  7:01         ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-08-27  7:45           ` Andrea Righi
2025-08-27 17:03         ` Yonghong Song
2025-08-27 17:00     ` Yonghong Song
2025-08-27 19:13       ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-08-27 19:28         ` Alan Maguire
2025-08-27 19:41           ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-08-27 19:52             ` Alan Maguire
2025-08-27 22:28               ` Yonghong Song
2025-08-27 22:10         ` Yonghong Song
2025-08-27  2:10 ` David Vernet

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