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From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/33] arm64: kconfig: Add Kconfig entry for MPAM
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2025 12:01:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aK7llvNbXZKWhtoo@e133380.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250822153048.2287-8-james.morse@arm.com>

Hi,

<super-pedantic mode enabled>

(Since this likely be people's go-to patch for understanding what MPAM
is, it is probably worth going the extra mile.)

On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 03:29:48PM +0000, James Morse wrote:
> The bulk of the MPAM driver lives outside the arch code because it
> largely manages MMIO devices that generate interrupts. The driver
> needs a Kconfig symbol to enable it, as MPAM is only found on arm64

Prefer -> "[...] to enable it. As MPAM is only [...]"

> platforms, that is where the Kconfig option makes the most sense.

It could be clearer what "where" refers to, here.

Maybe reword from ", that is [...]" -> ", the arm64 tree is the most
natural home for the Kconfig option."

(Or something like that.)

> This Kconfig option will later be used by the arch code to enable
> or disable the MPAM context-switch code, and registering the CPUs

Nit: "registering" -> "to register"

> properties with the MPAM driver.

Nit: "CPUs properties" -> "properties of CPUs" ?

(Maybe there was just a missed apostrophe, but it may be more readable
here if written out longhand.)


> Signed-off-by: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
> Reviewed-by: Jonathan Cameron <jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>
> ---
>  arch/arm64/Kconfig | 17 +++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 17 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/arch/arm64/Kconfig b/arch/arm64/Kconfig
> index e9bbfacc35a6..658e47fc0c5a 100644
> --- a/arch/arm64/Kconfig
> +++ b/arch/arm64/Kconfig
> @@ -2060,6 +2060,23 @@ config ARM64_TLB_RANGE
>  	  ARMv8.4-TLBI provides TLBI invalidation instruction that apply to a
>  	  range of input addresses.
>  
> +config ARM64_MPAM
> +	bool "Enable support for MPAM"
> +	help

<pedantic mode on>

> +	  Memory Partitioning and Monitoring is an optional extension
> +	  that allows the CPUs to mark load and store transactions with

Nit: "memory transactions" ?

(I'm wondering whether there are some transactions such as atomic
exchanges that are not neatly characterised as "load" or "store".
Possibly MPAM labels some transactions that really are neither.)

> +	  labels for partition-id and performance-monitoring-group.

Nit: the hyphenation suggests that these are known terms (in this
specific, hyphenated, form) with specific definitions somewhere.
I don't think that this is the case?  At least, I have not seen the
terms presented in this way anywhere else.

Also, the partition ID is itself a label, so "label for partition-id"
is a tautology.

How about:

--8<--

	  Memory System Resource Partitioning and Monitoring (MPAM) is an
	  optional extension to the Arm architecture that allows each
	  transaction issued to the memory system to be labelled with a
	  Partition identifier (PARTID) and Performance Monitoring Group
	  identifier (PMG).

-->8--

(Yes, that really seems to be what MPAM stands for in the published
specs.  That's quite a mounthful, and news to me...  I can't say I paid
much attention to the document titles beyond "MPAM"!)

> +	  System components, such as the caches, can use the partition-id
> +	  to apply a performance policy. MPAM monitors can use the

What is a "performance policy"?

The MPAM specs talk about resource controls; it's probably best to
stick to the same terminology.

> +	  partition-id and performance-monitoring-group to measure the
> +	  cache occupancy or data throughput.

So, how about something like:

--8<--

	  Memory system components, such as the caches, can be configured with
	  policies to control how much of various physical resources (such as
	  memory bandwidth or cache memory) the transactions labelled with each
	  PARTID can consume.  Depending on the capabilities of the hardware,
	  the PARTID and PMG can also be used as filtering criteria to measure
	  the memory system resource consumption of different parts of a
	  workload.

-->8--

(Where "Memory system components" is used in a generic sense and so not
capitalised.)

> +
> +	  Use of this extension requires CPU support, support in the
> +	  memory system components (MSC), and a description from firmware

But here, we are explicitly using an architectural term now, so

	"Memory System Components" (MSC)

makes sense.

> +	  of where the MSC are in the address space.

Prefer "MSCs" ?  (Not everyone agrees about whether TLAs are
pluralisable but it is easier on the reader if "are" has an obviously
plural noun to bind to.)

> +
> +	  MPAM is exposed to user-space via the resctrl pseudo filesystem.
> +
>  endmenu # "ARMv8.4 architectural features"
>  
>  menu "ARMv8.5 architectural features"

Cheers
---Dave

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-08-27 11:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-22 15:29 [PATCH 00/33] arm_mpam: Add basic mpam driver James Morse
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 01/33] cacheinfo: Expose the code to generate a cache-id from a device_node James Morse
2025-08-27 10:46   ` Dave Martin
2025-08-27 17:11     ` James Morse
2025-08-28 14:08       ` Dave Martin
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 02/33] drivers: base: cacheinfo: Add helper to find the cache size from cpu+level James Morse
2025-08-24 17:25   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-27 17:11     ` James Morse
2025-08-27 10:46   ` Dave Martin
2025-08-27 17:11     ` James Morse
2025-08-28 14:10       ` Dave Martin
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 03/33] ACPI / PPTT: Add a helper to fill a cpumask from a processor container James Morse
2025-08-26 14:45   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-28 15:56     ` James Morse
2025-08-27 10:48   ` Dave Martin
2025-08-28 15:57     ` James Morse
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 04/33] ACPI / PPTT: Stop acpi_count_levels() expecting callers to clear levels James Morse
2025-08-27 10:49   ` Dave Martin
2025-08-28 15:57     ` James Morse
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 05/33] ACPI / PPTT: Find cache level by cache-id James Morse
2025-08-23 12:14   ` Markus Elfring
2025-08-28 15:57     ` James Morse
2025-08-27  9:25   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-28 15:57     ` James Morse
2025-08-27 10:50   ` Dave Martin
2025-08-28 15:58     ` James Morse
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 06/33] ACPI / PPTT: Add a helper to fill a cpumask from a cache_id James Morse
2025-08-27 10:53   ` Dave Martin
2025-08-28 15:58     ` James Morse
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 07/33] arm64: kconfig: Add Kconfig entry for MPAM James Morse
2025-08-27  8:53   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-28 15:58     ` James Morse
2025-08-29  8:20       ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-27 11:01   ` Dave Martin [this message]
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 08/33] ACPI / MPAM: Parse the MPAM table James Morse
2025-08-23 10:55   ` Markus Elfring
2025-08-27 16:05   ` Dave Martin
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 09/33] dt-bindings: arm: Add MPAM MSC binding James Morse
2025-08-27 16:22   ` Dave Martin
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 10/33] arm_mpam: Add probe/remove for mpam msc driver and kbuild boiler plate James Morse
2025-08-22 19:15   ` Markus Elfring
2025-08-22 19:55   ` Markus Elfring
2025-08-23  6:41     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-08-27 13:03   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-27 15:39   ` Rob Herring
2025-08-27 16:16     ` Rob Herring
2025-09-01  9:11   ` Ben Horgan
2025-09-01 11:21   ` Dave Martin
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 11/33] arm_mpam: Add support for memory controller MSC on DT platforms James Morse
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 12/33] arm_mpam: Add the class and component structures for ris firmware described James Morse
2025-08-28  1:29   ` Fenghua Yu
2025-09-01 11:09   ` Dave Martin
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 13/33] arm_mpam: Add MPAM MSC register layout definitions James Morse
2025-08-29  8:42   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 14/33] arm_mpam: Add cpuhp callbacks to probe MSC hardware James Morse
2025-08-27 16:08   ` Rob Herring
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 15/33] arm_mpam: Probe MSCs to find the supported partid/pmg values James Morse
2025-08-28 13:12   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 16/33] arm_mpam: Add helpers for managing the locking around the mon_sel registers James Morse
2025-08-28 17:07   ` Fenghua Yu
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 17/33] arm_mpam: Probe the hardware features resctrl supports James Morse
2025-08-28 13:44   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:29 ` [PATCH 18/33] arm_mpam: Merge supported features during mpam_enable() into mpam_class James Morse
2025-08-29 13:54   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 19/33] arm_mpam: Reset MSC controls from cpu hp callbacks James Morse
2025-08-27 16:19   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 20/33] arm_mpam: Add a helper to touch an MSC from any CPU James Morse
2025-08-28 16:13   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 21/33] arm_mpam: Extend reset logic to allow devices to be reset any time James Morse
2025-08-29 14:30   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 22/33] arm_mpam: Register and enable IRQs James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 23/33] arm_mpam: Use a static key to indicate when mpam is enabled James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 24/33] arm_mpam: Allow configuration to be applied and restored during cpu online James Morse
2025-08-28 16:13   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 25/33] arm_mpam: Probe and reset the rest of the features James Morse
2025-08-28 10:11   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 26/33] arm_mpam: Add helpers to allocate monitors James Morse
2025-08-29 15:47   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 27/33] arm_mpam: Add mpam_msmon_read() to read monitor value James Morse
2025-08-29 15:55   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 28/33] arm_mpam: Track bandwidth counter state for overflow and power management James Morse
2025-08-29 16:09   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 29/33] arm_mpam: Probe for long/lwd mbwu counters James Morse
2025-08-28 16:14   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 30/33] arm_mpam: Use long MBWU counters if supported James Morse
2025-08-29 16:39   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 31/33] arm_mpam: Add helper to reset saved mbwu state James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 32/33] arm_mpam: Add kunit test for bitmap reset James Morse
2025-08-29 16:56   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 33/33] arm_mpam: Add kunit tests for props_mismatch() James Morse
2025-08-29 17:11   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 00/33] arm_mpam: Add basic mpam driver James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 01/33] cacheinfo: Expose the code to generate a cache-id from a device_node James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 02/33] drivers: base: cacheinfo: Add helper to find the cache size from cpu+level James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 03/33] ACPI / PPTT: Add a helper to fill a cpumask from a processor container James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 04/33] ACPI / PPTT: Stop acpi_count_levels() expecting callers to clear levels James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 05/33] ACPI / PPTT: Find cache level by cache-id James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 06/33] ACPI / PPTT: Add a helper to fill a cpumask from a cache_id James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 07/33] arm64: kconfig: Add Kconfig entry for MPAM James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 08/33] ACPI / MPAM: Parse the MPAM table James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 09/33] dt-bindings: arm: Add MPAM MSC binding James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 10/33] arm_mpam: Add probe/remove for mpam msc driver and kbuild boiler plate James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 11/33] arm_mpam: Add support for memory controller MSC on DT platforms James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 12/33] arm_mpam: Add the class and component structures for ris firmware described James Morse
2025-08-29 12:41   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 13/33] arm_mpam: Add MPAM MSC register layout definitions James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 14/33] arm_mpam: Add cpuhp callbacks to probe MSC hardware James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 15/33] arm_mpam: Probe MSCs to find the supported partid/pmg values James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 16/33] arm_mpam: Add helpers for managing the locking around the mon_sel registers James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 17/33] arm_mpam: Probe the hardware features resctrl supports James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 18/33] arm_mpam: Merge supported features during mpam_enable() into mpam_class James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 19/33] arm_mpam: Reset MSC controls from cpu hp callbacks James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 20/33] arm_mpam: Add a helper to touch an MSC from any CPU James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 21/33] arm_mpam: Extend reset logic to allow devices to be reset any time James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 22/33] arm_mpam: Register and enable IRQs James Morse
2025-09-01 10:05   ` Ben Horgan
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 23/33] arm_mpam: Use a static key to indicate when mpam is enabled James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 24/33] arm_mpam: Allow configuration to be applied and restored during cpu online James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 25/33] arm_mpam: Probe and reset the rest of the features James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 26/33] arm_mpam: Add helpers to allocate monitors James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 27/33] arm_mpam: Add mpam_msmon_read() to read monitor value James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 28/33] arm_mpam: Track bandwidth counter state for overflow and power management James Morse
2025-08-28  0:58   ` Fenghua Yu
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 29/33] arm_mpam: Probe for long/lwd mbwu counters James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 30/33] arm_mpam: Use long MBWU counters if supported James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 31/33] arm_mpam: Add helper to reset saved mbwu state James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 32/33] arm_mpam: Add kunit test for bitmap reset James Morse
2025-08-22 15:30 ` [PATCH 33/33] arm_mpam: Add kunit tests for props_mismatch() James Morse
2025-09-02 16:59   ` Fenghua Yu
2025-08-24 17:24 ` [PATCH 00/33] arm_mpam: Add basic mpam driver Krzysztof Kozlowski

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