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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] softirq: Provide a handshake for canceling tasklets via polling on PREEMPT_RT
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2025 09:44:53 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aKYltdkLBRZJF0Ok@slm.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250820105518.Yf36NzJd@linutronix.de>

Hello,

On Wed, Aug 20, 2025 at 12:55:18PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2025-08-20 12:36:59 [+0200], To Tejun Heo wrote:
> > Subject: [PATCH] workqueue: Provide a handshake for canceling BH workers
> …
> > This will flush all BH-work items assigned to that pool.
> 
> We need to flush all items because the inserted wq_barrier is at the
> end of the queue. So if the cb_lock is dropped after
> worker->current_func(work) then we will live lock. Just tested, I
> somehow assumed it polls on worker.

Is flushing all a problem tho? I think the main focus is keeping the
semantics matching on RT, right?

...
> -	if (from_cancel) {
> +	if (from_cancel && !IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT)) {
>  		unsigned long data = *work_data_bits(work);
>  
>  		if (!WARN_ON_ONCE(data & WORK_STRUCT_PWQ) &&
>  		    (data & WORK_OFFQ_BH)) {
> -			/*
> -			 * On RT, prevent a live lock when %current preempted
> -			 * soft interrupt processing or prevents ksoftirqd from
> -			 * running by keeping flipping BH. If the BH work item
> -			 * runs on a different CPU then this has no effect other
> -			 * than doing the BH disable/enable dance for nothing.
> -			 * This is copied from
> -			 * kernel/softirq.c::tasklet_unlock_spin_wait().
> -			 */
>  			while (!try_wait_for_completion(&barr.done)) {
> -				if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT)) {
> -					local_bh_disable();
> -					local_bh_enable();
> -				} else {
> -					cpu_relax();
> -				}
> +				cpu_relax();

I'm most likely missing something about RT but wouldn't the above still lead
to deadlocks if the caller is non-hardirq but higher priority thread?

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-20 19:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-12 14:39 [PATCH] softirq: Provide a handshake for canceling tasklets via polling on PREEMPT_RT Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-08-12 14:53 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-08-12 19:38   ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-13  6:33     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-08-13 18:05       ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-18 12:52         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-08-18 17:41           ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-19 15:01             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-08-20 10:36               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-08-20 10:55                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-08-20 19:44                   ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2025-08-21  9:28                     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-08-21 17:10                       ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-22  9:48                         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-08-22 18:07                           ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-26 15:49                             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-08-26 16:27                               ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-28 16:04                                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-08-29 19:34                                   ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-13  8:20 ` kernel test robot

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