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Wed, 27 Aug 2025 21:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from archie.me ([103.124.138.155]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d9443c01a7336-248d4e362d4sm8938915ad.148.2025.08.27.21.12.21 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 27 Aug 2025 21:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by archie.me (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 595784027828; Thu, 28 Aug 2025 11:12:18 +0700 (WIB) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2025 11:12:18 +0700 From: Bagas Sanjaya To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab , Jonathan Corbet Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List , Linux Documentation , Linux Kernel Workflows , Jonathan =?utf-8?Q?Neusch=C3=A4fer?= , Fox Foster , Federico Vaga , Randy Dunlap , Stephen Rothwell , Konstantin Ryabitsev , Matthew Wilcox Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Documentation: management-style: Reword "had better known the details" phrase Message-ID: References: <20250827044848.17374-1-bagasdotme@gmail.com> <87wm6p9v8l.fsf@trenco.lwn.net> <20250827113312.62162725@foz.lan> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3kp2UqL1B3tlnqWW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20250827113312.62162725@foz.lan> --3kp2UqL1B3tlnqWW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 27, 2025 at 11:33:12AM +0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > As a non-native English speaker, "had better know" looks really > weird on my eyes, as, at least for me, "know" is a verb. >=20 > Heh, I just discovered today by looking on a dictionary: >=20 > https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/know >=20 > That know can informally be used as a noun (a shortcut for > knowledge?). >=20 > For me as a non-native English speaker, when one writes: >=20 > They "most likely know" (know here is a verb) >=20 > or: > They "had better knowledge" (knowledge is a name) >=20 > Things become clearer. >=20 > Heh: >=20 > They "had better know the details better than you" >=20 > the "better" word is used twice, and yeah, this is requires more > fluency in English for a non-native speaker to get what it says. >=20 > Considering that "know" (noun) seems to be a shortcut > for "knowledge", what about: >=20 > They "had better knowledge about the details than you" That can be alternative. Thanks. --=20 An old man doll... just what I always wanted! - Clara --3kp2UqL1B3tlnqWW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEABYKAB0WIQSSYQ6Cy7oyFNCHrUH2uYlJVVFOowUCaK/XHQAKCRD2uYlJVVFO o49WAPsEAvJcJNYwU4d66ZTyPkrKkSJhDiFl0sLolEoQljcXvgD/YN+6gGbmw7bA QRtPBYIm0VgoI8+XNqa98l9ImkRrBw4= =evxw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3kp2UqL1B3tlnqWW--