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From: Alexander Wilhelm <alexander.wilhelm@westermo.com>
To: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
Cc: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Aquantia PHY in OCSGMII mode?
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2025 07:54:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aN4TqGD-YBx01vlj@FUE-ALEWI-WINX> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250828092859.vvejz6xrarisbl2w@skbuf>

On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 12:28:59PM +0300, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2025 at 10:13:59AM +0100, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 27, 2025 at 11:03:42AM +0200, Alexander Wilhelm wrote:
> > > I asked the hardware engineer again. The point is that the MAC does not set
> > > SGMII for 100M. It still uses 2500base-x but with 10x paket repetition.
> > 
> > No one uses symbol repetition when in 2500base-x mode. Nothing supports
> > it. Every device datasheet I've read states clearly that symbol
> > repetition is unsupported when operating at 2.5Gbps.
> > 
> > Also think about what this means. If the link is operating at 2.5Gbps
> > with a 10x symbol repetition, that means the link would be passing
> > 250Mbps. That's not compatible with _anything_.
> 
> FWIW, claim 5 of this active Cisco patent suggests dividing frames into
> 2 segments, replicating symbols from the first segment twice and symbols
> from the second segment three times.
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://patents.google.com/patent/US7356047B1/en__;!!I9LPvj3b!Fx2G5geAtgbXRIF2G5-FXZ1uR8K3DzHG9gwbOA0N3YRTEz4_c9Mx58Ejphl6RPuN5KXYHzAKyvPHyYnKNl1oJiY2aFmSNbRZ$ 
> 
> I'm completely unaware of any implementations of this either, though.
> 
> To remain on topic, I don't see how the hardware engineer's claim can be
> true. The PCS symbol replication is done through the IF_MODE_SPEED
> field, which lynx_pcs_link_up_2500basex() sets to SGMII_SPEED_2500 (same
> as SGMII_SPEED_1000, i.e. no replication). You can confirm that the
> IF_MODE register has the expected value by putting a print.

Hi Vladimir,

Thanks your for the hint with the IF_MODE register, I finally found the
root cause of my issue. Unfortunately, my U-Boot implementation was setting
the `IF_MODE_SGMII_EN` and `IF_MODE_USE_SGMII_AN` bits. This caused a 10x
symbol replication when operating at 100M speed. At the same time, the
`pcs-lynx` driver never modified these bits when 2500Base-X was configured.

I was able to fix this in U-Boot. Additionally, I explicitly cleared these
bits in the Lynx driver whenever 2500Base-X is configured (see patch
below). I’d like to hear your expertise on this: do you think this patch is
necessary, or could there be scenarios where these flags should remain set
for 2500Base-X?


Best regards
Alexander Wilhelm
---
 drivers/net/pcs/pcs-lynx.c | 26 ++++++++++++++++++++------
 1 file changed, 20 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/net/pcs/pcs-lynx.c b/drivers/net/pcs/pcs-lynx.c
index 23b40e9eacbb..2774c62fb0db 100644
--- a/drivers/net/pcs/pcs-lynx.c
+++ b/drivers/net/pcs/pcs-lynx.c
@@ -169,6 +169,25 @@ static int lynx_pcs_config_giga(struct mdio_device *pcs,
 					  neg_mode);
 }
 
+static int lynx_pcs_config_2500basex(struct mdio_device *pcs,
+				     unsigned int neg_mode)
+{
+	int err;
+
+	if (neg_mode == PHYLINK_PCS_NEG_INBAND_ENABLED) {
+		dev_err(&pcs->dev,
+			"AN not supported on 3.125GHz SerDes lane\n");
+		return -EOPNOTSUPP;
+	}
+
+	err = mdiodev_modify(pcs, IF_MODE,
+			     IF_MODE_SGMII_EN | IF_MODE_USE_SGMII_AN, 0);
+	if (err)
+		return err;
+
+	return 0;
+}
+
 static int lynx_pcs_config_usxgmii(struct mdio_device *pcs,
 				   const unsigned long *advertising,
 				   unsigned int neg_mode)
@@ -201,12 +220,7 @@ static int lynx_pcs_config(struct phylink_pcs *pcs, unsigned int neg_mode,
 		return lynx_pcs_config_giga(lynx->mdio, ifmode, advertising,
 					    neg_mode);
 	case PHY_INTERFACE_MODE_2500BASEX:
-		if (neg_mode == PHYLINK_PCS_NEG_INBAND_ENABLED) {
-			dev_err(&lynx->mdio->dev,
-				"AN not supported on 3.125GHz SerDes lane\n");
-			return -EOPNOTSUPP;
-		}
-		break;
+		return lynx_pcs_config_2500basex(lynx->mdio, neg_mode);
 	case PHY_INTERFACE_MODE_USXGMII:
 		return lynx_pcs_config_usxgmii(lynx->mdio, advertising,
 					       neg_mode);

base-commit: 8f5ae30d69d7543eee0d70083daf4de8fe15d585
-- 
2.43.0

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-02  6:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-31 14:59 Aquantia PHY in OCSGMII mode? Alexander Wilhelm
2025-07-31 15:14 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-07-31 16:02   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-08-01  5:44     ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-04 14:53       ` Andrew Lunn
2025-07-31 17:16 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-07-31 19:26   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-08-01  5:50     ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-01 11:01     ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-08-01 11:54       ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-01 11:58         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-08-01 12:06           ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-01 12:23             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-08-01 12:36               ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-01 13:04               ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-08-01 14:02                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-08-01 14:37                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-08-04  6:17                 ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-04 10:01                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-08-04 13:01                     ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-04 13:41                       ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-08-04 14:47                         ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-04 16:00                           ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-08-04 16:02                             ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-08-05  7:59                               ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-05 10:20                                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-08-05 12:44                                   ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-06 14:58                                     ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-08-07  5:56                                       ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-27  5:57                                       ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-27  7:31                                         ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-08-27  8:41                                           ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-27  8:47                                             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-08-27  9:03                                               ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-27  9:13                                                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-08-28  9:28                                                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-10-02  5:54                                                     ` Alexander Wilhelm [this message]
2025-10-07 14:08                                                       ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-10-08  7:47                                                         ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-10-08 11:10                                                           ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-10-08 12:52                                                             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-08 13:00                                                               ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-10-08 13:28                                                             ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-10-08 14:55                                                               ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-10-09  6:05                                                                 ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-27  8:08                                         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-08-27  8:32                                           ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-27  8:45                                             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-08-04 14:22                       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-08-04 14:51                         ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-04 14:56                         ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-08-01 11:13     ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-08-01  5:53   ` Alexander Wilhelm

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