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From: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
To: lvxiafei <xiafei_xupt@163.com>
Cc: pablo@netfilter.org, coreteam@netfilter.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	edumazet@google.com, horms@kernel.org, kadlec@netfilter.org,
	kuba@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	lvxiafei@sensetime.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V6] netfilter: netns nf_conntrack: per-netns net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_max sysctl
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2025 15:54:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aO5WDcNAegXi1Umg@strlen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250523092129.98856-1-xiafei_xupt@163.com>

lvxiafei <xiafei_xupt@163.com> wrote:
> > > Wether its time to disallow 0 is a different topic and not related to this patch.
> > >
> > > I would argue: "yes", disallow 0 -- users can still set INT_MAX if they
> > >  want and that should provide enough rope to strangle yourself.
> 
> > The question is how to make it without breaking crazy people.
> 
> It seems that we need a new topic to discuss the maximum value that the system can
> tolerate to ensure safety:
> 
> 1. This value is a system limitation, not a user setting
> 2. This value should be calculated based on system resources
> 3. This value takes precedence over 0 and other larger values that the user sets
> 4. This value does not affect the value of the user setting, and 0 in the user
> setting can still indicate that the user setting is unlimited, maintaining
> compatibility with historical usage.

I've applied a variant of this patch to nf-next:testing.

Could you please check that I adapted it correctly?
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netfilter/nf-next.git/commit/?h=testing&id=b7bfa7d96fa5a7f3c2a69ad406ede520e658cb07

(I added a patch right before that rejects conntrack_max=0).

I wonder if we should update the sysctl path to reflect the
effective value, i.e., so that when netns sets

nf_conntrack_max=1000000

... but init_net is capped at 65536, then a listing
shows the sysctl at 65536.

It would be similar to what we do for max_buckets.

I also considered to make such a request fail at set time, but it
would make the sysctl fail/not fail 'randomly' and it also would
not do the right thing when init_net setting is reduced later.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-14 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-07  9:50 [PATCH] netfilter: netns nf_conntrack: per-netns net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_max sysctl lvxiafei
2025-04-07 10:13 ` Florian Westphal
2025-04-07 10:56   ` Jan Engelhardt
2025-04-08  8:27     ` lvxiafei
2025-04-08  8:38     ` lvxiafei
2025-04-08  8:17   ` lvxiafei
2025-04-08  9:03 ` [PATCH V2] " lvxiafei
2025-04-08  9:58   ` Florian Westphal
2025-04-08 12:39     ` lvxiafei
2025-04-08 13:28       ` Florian Westphal
2025-04-09  4:14         ` lvxiafei
2025-04-09  4:25 ` [PATCH V3] " lvxiafei
2025-04-09  7:20   ` Florian Westphal
2025-04-09  9:13     ` lvxiafei
2025-04-09  9:42       ` Florian Westphal
2025-04-10 10:02         ` lvxiafei
2025-04-10 10:53           ` Florian Westphal
2025-04-10 13:05         ` lvxiafei
2025-04-10 13:17           ` Florian Westphal
2025-04-10 14:16             ` Florian Westphal
2025-04-11  4:09               ` lvxiafei
2025-04-12 14:37 ` [PATCH V4] " lvxiafei
2025-04-12 17:26 ` [PATCH V5] " lvxiafei
2025-04-12 17:30   ` lvxiafei
2025-04-12 21:16   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-04-13  1:14     ` lvxiafei
2025-04-13  9:07   ` Florian Westphal
2025-04-14  3:04     ` lvxiafei
2025-04-15  9:08 ` [PATCH V6] " lvxiafei
2025-04-27  8:14   ` lvxiafei
2025-04-28  9:40     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2025-05-22 19:24   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2025-05-22 19:32     ` Florian Westphal
2025-05-22 19:58       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2025-05-23  9:21         ` lvxiafei
2025-10-14 13:54           ` Florian Westphal [this message]
2025-12-01 11:08             ` lvxiafei

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