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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Hou Wenlong <houwenlong.hwl@antgroup.com>
Cc: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
	 Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: x86: Drop "cache" from user return MSR setter that skips WRMSR
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 06:41:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aPD173WPjul0qC0P@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251016132738.GB95606@k08j02272.eu95sqa>

On Thu, Oct 16, 2025, Hou Wenlong wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 04:58:17PM +0800, Yan Zhao wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 09:19:00AM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > +	/*
> > > +	 * Leave the user-return notifiers as-is when disabling virtualization
> > > +	 * for reboot, i.e. when disabling via IPI function call, and instead
> > > +	 * pin kvm.ko (if it's a module) to defend against use-after-free (in
> > > +	 * the *very* unlikely scenario module unload is racing with reboot).
> > > +	 * On a forced reboot, tasks aren't frozen before shutdown, and so KVM
> > > +	 * could be actively modifying user-return MSR state when the IPI to
> > > +	 * disable virtualization arrives.  Handle the extreme edge case here
> > > +	 * instead of trying to account for it in the normal flows.
> > > +	 */
> > > +	if (in_task() || WARN_ON_ONCE(!kvm_rebooting))
> > kvm_offline_cpu() may be invoked when irq is enabled.
> > So does it depend on [1]?
> > 
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/aMirvo9Xly5fVmbY@google.com/
> >
> 
> Actually, kvm_offline_cpu() can't be interrupted by kvm_shutdown().
> syscore_shutdown() is always called after
> migrate_to_reboot_cpu(), which internally waits for currently running
> CPU hotplug to complete, as described in [*].
> 
> [*] https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/dd4b8286774df98d58b5048e380b10d4de5836af.camel@intel.com
> 
> 
> > > +		drop_user_return_notifiers();
> > > +	else
> > > +		__module_get(THIS_MODULE);
> > Since vm_vm_fops holds ref of module kvm_intel, and drop_user_return_notifiers()
> > is called in kvm_destroy_vm() or kvm_exit():
> > 
> > kvm_destroy_vm/kvm_exit
> >   kvm_disable_virtualization
> >     kvm_offline_cpu
> >       kvm_disable_virtualization_cpu
> >         drop_user_return_notifiers
> > 
> > also since fire_user_return_notifiers() executes with irq disabled, is it
> > necessary to pin kvm.ko?

Pinning kvm.ko is necessary because kvm_disable_virtualization_cpu() will bail
early due to virtualization_enabled being false (it will have been cleared by
the IPI call from kvm_shutdown()).  We could try figuring out a way around that,
but I don't see an easy solution, and in practice I can't think of any meaningful
downside to pinning kvm.ko.

I don't want to leave virtualization_enabled set because that's completely wrong
for everything except x86's user-return MSRs, which aren't even strictly related
to enabling virtualization.

I considered calling drop_user_return_notifiers() directly from kvm_exit(), but
that would require more special-case code, and it would mean blasting an IPI to
all CPUs, which seems like a bad idea when we know the system is trying to reboot.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-16 13:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-19 21:42 [PATCH] KVM: x86: Drop "cache" from user return MSR setter that skips WRMSR Sean Christopherson
2025-09-23  3:20 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-09-30 12:22 ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-30 12:58   ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-30 16:29     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-30 16:34       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-15  0:55         ` Yan Zhao
2025-10-15 16:19           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-16  8:58             ` Yan Zhao
2025-10-16 13:27               ` Hou Wenlong
2025-10-16 13:41                 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2025-10-20  7:53                   ` Yan Zhao
2025-10-16 13:05             ` Hou Wenlong
2025-10-03 13:53       ` Yan Zhao
2025-10-03 16:53         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-13 13:47           ` Yan Zhao

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