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From: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
	Changwoo Min <changwoo@igalia.com>,
	Dan Schatzberg <schatzberg.dan@gmail.com>,
	Emil Tsalapatis <etsal@meta.com>,
	sched-ext@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/13] sched_ext: Add scx_cpu0 example scheduler
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2025 22:06:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aRJT1dbGTmPRw4-p@gpd4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aRIyfJWJ6fcW5frO@slm.duckdns.org>

On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 08:44:12AM -1000, Tejun Heo wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 09:36:46AM +0100, Andrea Righi wrote:
> > > +void BPF_STRUCT_OPS(cpu0_enqueue, struct task_struct *p, u64 enq_flags)
> > > +{
> > > +	if (p->nr_cpus_allowed < nr_cpus) {
> > 
> > We could be even more aggressive with DSQ_CPU0 and check
> > bpf_cpumask_test_cpu(0, p->cpus_ptr), but this is fine as well.
> 
> I did the following instead:
> 
>   void BPF_STRUCT_OPS(cpu0_enqueue, struct task_struct *p, u64 enq_flags)
>   {
>           /*
>            * select_cpu() always picks CPU0. If @p is not on CPU0, it can't run on
>            * CPU 0. Queue on whichever CPU it's currently only.
>            */
>           if (scx_bpf_task_cpu(p) != 0) {
>                   stat_inc(0);	/* count local queueing */
>                   scx_bpf_dsq_insert(p, SCX_DSQ_LOCAL, SCX_SLICE_DFL, 0);
>                   return;
>           }
> 
>           stat_inc(1);	/* count cpu0 queueing */
>           scx_bpf_dsq_insert(p, DSQ_CPU0, SCX_SLICE_DFL, enq_flags);
>   }
> 
> This should be safe against migration disabled tasks and so on.

Looks good.

> 
> > > +		stat_inc(0);	/* count local queueing */
> > > +		scx_bpf_dsq_insert(p, SCX_DSQ_LOCAL, SCX_SLICE_DFL, 0);
> > 
> > And this is why I was suggesting to automatically fallback to the new
> > global default time slice internally. In this case do we want to preserve
> > the old 20ms default or automatically switch to the new one?
> 
> Maybe SCX_SLICE_DFL can become runtime loaded const volatile but anyone
> who's using it is just saying "I don't care". As long as it's not something
> that breaks the system left and right, does it matter what exact value it
> is?

I agree that if a scheduler uses SCX_SLICE_DFL it shouldn't care too much
about the exact value.

My concern was more about those schedulers that are quite paranoid about
latency and even if something isn't handled properly (directly dispatching
to a wrong CPU, a task being rescheduled internally, etc.), we'd still have
a guarantee that a task's time slice can't exceed a known upper bound. But
this could be managed by being able to set a default time slice (somehow)
and it can be addressed separately.

So yeah, in this case the exact value of SCX_SLICE_DFL doesn't really
matter probably.

-Andrea

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-10 21:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-09 18:30 [PATCHSET sched_ext/for-6.19] sched_ext: Improve bypass mode scalability Tejun Heo
2025-11-09 18:31 ` [PATCH 01/13] sched_ext: Don't set ddsp_dsq_id during select_cpu in bypass mode Tejun Heo
2025-11-10  6:57   ` Andrea Righi
2025-11-10 16:08     ` Tejun Heo
2025-11-09 18:31 ` [PATCH 02/13] sched_ext: Make slice values tunable and use shorter slice " Tejun Heo
2025-11-10  7:03   ` Andrea Righi
2025-11-10  7:59     ` Andrea Righi
2025-11-10 16:21     ` Tejun Heo
2025-11-10 16:22       ` Tejun Heo
2025-11-10  8:22   ` Andrea Righi
2025-11-11 14:57   ` Dan Schatzberg
2025-11-09 18:31 ` [PATCH 03/13] sched_ext: Refactor do_enqueue_task() local and global DSQ paths Tejun Heo
2025-11-10  7:21   ` Andrea Righi
2025-11-09 18:31 ` [PATCH 04/13] sched_ext: Use per-CPU DSQs instead of per-node global DSQs in bypass mode Tejun Heo
2025-11-10  7:42   ` Andrea Righi
2025-11-10 16:42     ` Tejun Heo
2025-11-10 17:30       ` Andrea Righi
2025-11-11 15:31   ` Dan Schatzberg
2025-11-09 18:31 ` [PATCH 05/13] sched_ext: Simplify breather mechanism with scx_aborting flag Tejun Heo
2025-11-10  7:45   ` Andrea Righi
2025-11-11 15:34   ` Dan Schatzberg
2025-11-09 18:31 ` [PATCH 06/13] sched_ext: Exit dispatch and move operations immediately when aborting Tejun Heo
2025-11-10  8:20   ` Andrea Righi
2025-11-10 18:51     ` Tejun Heo
2025-11-11 15:46   ` Dan Schatzberg
2025-11-09 18:31 ` [PATCH 07/13] sched_ext: Make scx_exit() and scx_vexit() return bool Tejun Heo
2025-11-10  8:28   ` Andrea Righi
2025-11-11 15:48   ` Dan Schatzberg
2025-11-09 18:31 ` [PATCH 08/13] sched_ext: Refactor lockup handlers into handle_lockup() Tejun Heo
2025-11-10  8:29   ` Andrea Righi
2025-11-11 15:49   ` Dan Schatzberg
2025-11-09 18:31 ` [PATCH 09/13] sched_ext: Make handle_lockup() propagate scx_verror() result Tejun Heo
2025-11-10  8:29   ` Andrea Righi
2025-11-09 18:31 ` [PATCH 10/13] sched_ext: Hook up hardlockup detector Tejun Heo
2025-11-10  8:31   ` Andrea Righi
2025-11-09 18:31 ` [PATCH 11/13] sched_ext: Add scx_cpu0 example scheduler Tejun Heo
2025-11-10  8:36   ` Andrea Righi
2025-11-10 18:44     ` Tejun Heo
2025-11-10 21:06       ` Andrea Righi [this message]
2025-11-10 22:08         ` Tejun Heo
2025-11-09 18:31 ` [PATCH 12/13] sched_ext: Factor out scx_dsq_list_node cursor initialization into INIT_DSQ_LIST_CURSOR Tejun Heo
2025-11-10  8:37   ` Andrea Righi
2025-11-09 18:31 ` [PATCH 13/13] sched_ext: Implement load balancer for bypass mode Tejun Heo
2025-11-10  9:38   ` Andrea Righi
2025-11-10 19:21     ` Tejun Heo

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