From: Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
Doug Nelson <doug.nelson@intel.com>,
Mohini Narkhede <mohini.narkhede@intel.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>,
K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] sched/fair: Skip sched_balance_running cmpxchg when balance is not due
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 21:32:04 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aRSvfJmQTGfdS0fc@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251112133937.GC3245006@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> [2025-11-12 14:39:37]:
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 04:55:48PM +0530, Srikar Dronamraju wrote:
>
> > If the CPU that was doing the balance was not the first CPU of the domain
> > span, but it was doing the balance since the first CPU was busy, and the
> > first CPU now happens to be idle at redo, the scheduler would have chosen the
> > first CPU to do the balance. However it will now choose the CPU that had the atomic..
> >
> > I think this is better because
> > - The first CPU may have tried just before this CPU dropped the atomic and
> > hence we may miss the balance opportunity.
> > - The first CPU and the other CPU may not be sharing cache and hence there
> > may be a cache-miss, which we are avoiding by doing this.
>
> I'm not sure I understand what you're arguing for. Are you saying it
> would be better to retain the lock where possible?
>
Yes, I was supporting keeping the lock and not check should_we_balance() with
lock held.
Lets say CPU2 enters sched_balance_rq(), should_we_balance succeeds, CPU 2 take
the lock. It calls redo, and this time should_we_balance() may not succeed for
CPU 2 (since CPU 0/1 is idle). However CPU0 may have already raced with CPU2
and tried to take the lock before CPU2 released it and bailed out. So we miss a
balancing opportunity.
>
--
Thanks and Regards
Srikar Dronamraju
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-12 16:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-10 18:47 [PATCH v4] sched/fair: Skip sched_balance_running cmpxchg when balance is not due Tim Chen
2025-11-11 6:24 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-12 8:02 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2025-11-12 10:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 10:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 11:09 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-12 11:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 21:10 ` Tim Chen
2025-11-13 4:25 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-13 17:49 ` Tim Chen
2025-11-12 11:25 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2025-11-12 13:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 13:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 16:02 ` Srikar Dronamraju [this message]
2025-11-12 10:53 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-14 12:19 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Tim Chen
2025-11-15 20:56 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-17 18:55 ` Tim Chen
2025-11-17 19:00 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-11-27 14:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-18 9:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-18 9:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-21 6:26 ` Nathan Chancellor
2025-11-21 9:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-17 19:06 ` Borislav Petkov
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