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From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
To: Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <linux@treblig.org>,
	Yang Li <yang.lee@linux.alibaba.com>,
	James Clark <james.clark@linaro.org>,
	Thomas Falcon <thomas.falcon@intel.com>,
	Thomas Richter <tmricht@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Dapeng Mi <dapeng1.mi@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 10/10] perf stat: Add no-affinity flag
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2025 22:50:18 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aRwXKgv7iUjfvny_@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP-5=fUF_GQKiBoKVx-z5SUZsmHdqhxzdD39iH9O=53xg2EuHQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 17, 2025 at 08:32:20PM -0800, Ian Rogers wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2025 at 6:41 PM Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 13, 2025 at 10:05:16AM -0800, Ian Rogers wrote:
> > > Add flag that disables affinity behavior. Using sched_setaffinity to
> > > place a perf thread on a CPU can avoid certain interprocessor
> > > interrupts but may introduce a delay due to the scheduling,
> > > particularly on loaded machines. Add a command line option to disable
> > > the behavior. This behavior is less present in other tools like `perf
> > > record`, as it uses a ring buffer and doesn't make repeated system
> > > calls.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>
> > > ---
> > >  tools/perf/Documentation/perf-stat.txt | 4 ++++
> > >  tools/perf/builtin-stat.c              | 6 ++++++
> > >  tools/perf/util/evlist.c               | 2 +-
> > >  tools/perf/util/evlist.h               | 1 +
> > >  4 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/tools/perf/Documentation/perf-stat.txt b/tools/perf/Documentation/perf-stat.txt
> > > index 1a766d4a2233..1ffb510606af 100644
> > > --- a/tools/perf/Documentation/perf-stat.txt
> > > +++ b/tools/perf/Documentation/perf-stat.txt
> > > @@ -382,6 +382,10 @@ color the metric's computed value.
> > >  Don't print output, warnings or messages. This is useful with perf stat
> > >  record below to only write data to the perf.data file.
> > >
> > > +--no-affinity::
> > > +Don't change scheduler affinities when iterating over CPUs. Disables
> > > +an optimization aimed at minimizing interprocessor interrupts.
> > > +
> > >  STAT RECORD
> > >  -----------
> > >  Stores stat data into perf data file.
> > > diff --git a/tools/perf/builtin-stat.c b/tools/perf/builtin-stat.c
> > > index aec93b91fd11..fa42b08bd1df 100644
> > > --- a/tools/perf/builtin-stat.c
> > > +++ b/tools/perf/builtin-stat.c
> > > @@ -2415,6 +2415,7 @@ static int parse_tpebs_mode(const struct option *opt, const char *str,
> > >  int cmd_stat(int argc, const char **argv)
> > >  {
> > >       struct opt_aggr_mode opt_mode = {};
> > > +     bool no_affinity = false;
> > >       struct option stat_options[] = {
> > >               OPT_BOOLEAN('T', "transaction", &transaction_run,
> > >                       "hardware transaction statistics"),
> > > @@ -2543,6 +2544,8 @@ int cmd_stat(int argc, const char **argv)
> > >                       "don't print 'summary' for CSV summary output"),
> > >               OPT_BOOLEAN(0, "quiet", &quiet,
> > >                       "don't print any output, messages or warnings (useful with record)"),
> > > +             OPT_BOOLEAN(0, "no-affinity", &no_affinity,
> > > +                     "don't allow affinity optimizations aimed at reducing IPIs"),
> >
> > I know you want to add an option to disable the behaivor, but I think
> > it'd better to have a positive option like just '--affinity'.  Then we
> > will have '--no-affinity' for free. :)  The current form will allow
> > '--no-no-affinity'.
> >
> > Then the variable also can be 'enable_affinity' or so.
> >
> > You can mention --no-affinity in the help message and the man page
> > document so that users can discover the intention.
> 
> I was trying to keep the code the same as the flag. I don't want to
> have an affinity flag you need to set to true in say evlist, as that
> will need updating in all users of the evlist or become a behavioral
> change. We can have the evlist with no_affinity and invert the flag,
> it just looks awkward imo.

You can make the default to true and just update the users that want
different behaviors.

Thanks,
Namhyung


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-18  6:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-13 18:05 [PATCH v4 00/10] perf stat fixes and improvements Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 18:05 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] libperf cpumap: Reduce allocations and sorting in intersect Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 18:05 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] perf pmu: perf_cpu_map__new_int to avoid parsing a string Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 18:05 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] perf tool_pmu: Use old_count when computing count values for time events Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 18:05 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] perf stat-shadow: Read tool events directly Ian Rogers
2025-11-18  2:30   ` Namhyung Kim
2025-11-18  4:36     ` Ian Rogers
2025-11-18  6:45       ` Namhyung Kim
2025-11-13 18:05 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] perf stat: Reduce scope of ru_stats Ian Rogers
2025-11-18  2:31   ` Namhyung Kim
2025-11-13 18:05 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] perf stat: Reduce scope of walltime_nsecs_stats Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 18:05 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] perf tool_pmu: More accurately set the cpus for tool events Ian Rogers
2026-02-03 17:37   ` Andres Freund
2026-02-03 23:05     ` Ian Rogers
2026-02-03 23:27       ` Andres Freund
2026-02-03 23:31         ` Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 18:05 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] perf evlist: Reduce affinity use and move into iterator, fix no affinity Ian Rogers
2025-11-13 18:05 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] perf stat: Read tool events last Ian Rogers
2025-11-18  2:35   ` Namhyung Kim
2025-11-18  4:38     ` Ian Rogers
2025-11-18  6:46       ` Namhyung Kim
2025-11-13 18:05 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] perf stat: Add no-affinity flag Ian Rogers
2025-11-18  2:40   ` Namhyung Kim
2025-11-18  4:32     ` Ian Rogers
2025-11-18  6:50       ` Namhyung Kim [this message]
2025-11-18 18:00 ` [PATCH v4 00/10] perf stat fixes and improvements Namhyung Kim

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