From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: peterz@infradead.org, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kprateek.nayak@amd.com,
dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, vschneid@redhat.com,
rostedt@goodmis.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] sched/fair: Check for blocked task after time check
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2025 07:26:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aS6GmGY4Bk-mD0mY@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251201183146.74443-4-sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
* Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> nohz.has_blocked can be updated often as and when CPUs enter idle state.
> But stats are updated only at regular intervals. Usually fixed to
> LOAD_AVG_PERIOD=32.
>
> Read the value only after time check is successful to avoid cache
> references to it.
>
> Signed-off-by: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
> ---
> kernel/sched/fair.c | 4 ++--
> 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index 55746274af06..5534822fd754 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -12440,8 +12440,8 @@ static void nohz_balancer_kick(struct rq *rq)
> */
> nohz_balance_exit_idle(rq);
>
> - if (READ_ONCE(nohz.has_blocked) &&
> - time_after(now, READ_ONCE(nohz.next_blocked)))
> + if (time_after(now, READ_ONCE(nohz.next_blocked)) &&
> + READ_ONCE(nohz.has_blocked))
> flags = NOHZ_STATS_KICK;
So this patch makes no sense, as the two fields [1] and
[2] are almost next to each other:
static struct {
cpumask_var_t idle_cpus_mask; // 0
atomic_t nr_cpus; // 8
int has_blocked; /* Idle CPUS has blocked load */ <========== [1] // 12
int needs_update; /* Newly idle CPUs need their next_balance collated */ // 16
unsigned long next_balance; /* in jiffy units */ // 24
unsigned long next_blocked; /* Next update of blocked load in jiffies */ <========== [2] // 32
} nohz ____cacheline_aligned;
... and thus they very likely share the same cacheline
and there can be no reduction in cacheline bouncing
from this change.
In fact with OFFSTACK=y the cpumask_var_t is 8 bytes
and thus the offset of the two fields will be 12 and 32
within the same 64-byte cacheline, guaranteed. I've
marked the field offsets in the rightmost column for
this case.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-02 6:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-01 18:31 [PATCH 0/4] sched/fair: improve nohz fields for large systems Shrikanth Hegde
2025-12-01 18:31 ` [PATCH 1/4] sched/fair: Move checking for nohz cpus after time check Shrikanth Hegde
2025-12-01 18:31 ` [PATCH 2/4] sched/fair: Change likelyhood of nohz nr_cpus check Shrikanth Hegde
2025-12-01 18:31 ` [PATCH 3/4] sched/fair: Check for blocked task after time check Shrikanth Hegde
2025-12-02 6:26 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2025-12-02 6:55 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-12-01 18:31 ` [PATCH 4/4] sched/fair: Remove atomic nr_cpus and use cpumask instead Shrikanth Hegde
2025-12-01 19:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-12-02 5:29 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-12-02 7:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-12-02 14:35 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-12-02 16:14 ` Ingo Molnar
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