From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched/fair: Rename cfs_rq::avg_vruntime to ::sum_w_vruntime, and helper functions
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2025 16:19:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aS8DeHzrHS5O4AHj@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251202103501.GC2556898@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 01, 2025 at 07:46:47AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > The ::avg_vruntime field is a misnomer: it says it's an
> > 'average vruntime', but in reality it's the momentary sum
> > of the weighted vruntimes of all queued tasks, which is
> > at least a division away from being an average.
> >
> > This is clear from comments about the math of fair scheduling:
> >
> > * \Sum (v_i - v0) * w_i := cfs_rq->avg_vruntime
> >
> > This confusion is increased by the cfs_avg_vruntime() function,
> > which does perform the division and returns a true average.
> >
> > The sum of all weighted vruntimes should be named thusly,
> > so rename the field to ::sum_w_vruntime. (As arguably
> > ::sum_weighted_vruntime would be a bit of a mouthful.)
> >
> > Understanding the scheduler is hard enough already, without
> > extra layers of obfuscated naming. ;-)
> >
> > Also rename related helper functions:
> >
> > sum_vruntime_add() => sum_w_vruntime_add()
> > sum_vruntime_sub() => sum_w_vruntime_sub()
> > sum_vruntime_update() => sum_w_vruntime_update()
>
> So vruntime := runtime / w, so w*vruntime is runtime again. I'm sure
> there's something there.
Haha, yes. It's delta_exec all the way down, and turtles.
> /me runs.
> But yeah no arguments this naming needs help.
>
> > With the notable exception of cfs_avg_vruntime(), which
> > was named accurately.
>
> But the old avg_vruntime() name was good too!
Yeah. It's now restored in its old glory. :-)
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-02 15:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-01 6:46 [PATCH 0/6] sched: Misc cleanups Ingo Molnar
2025-12-01 6:46 ` [PATCH 1/6] sched/fair: Join two #ifdef CONFIG_CFS_BANDWIDTH blocks Ingo Molnar
2025-12-04 5:53 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-12-06 10:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-12-14 7:46 ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Join two #ifdef CONFIG_FAIR_GROUP_SCHED blocks tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2025-12-15 7:59 ` tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2025-12-01 6:46 ` [PATCH 2/6] sched/fair: Clean up comments in 'struct cfs_rq' Ingo Molnar
2025-12-14 7:46 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2025-12-15 7:59 ` tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2025-12-01 6:46 ` [PATCH 3/6] sched/fair: Separate se->vlag from se->vprot Ingo Molnar
2025-12-01 8:06 ` [PATCH 3/6 v2] " Ingo Molnar
2025-12-14 7:46 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2025-12-15 7:59 ` tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2025-12-01 6:46 ` [PATCH 4/6] sched/fair: Rename avg_vruntime() to cfs_avg_vruntime() Ingo Molnar
2025-12-02 10:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-02 15:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-12-01 6:46 ` [PATCH 5/6] sched/fair: Rename cfs_rq::avg_load to cfs_rq::sum_weight Ingo Molnar
2025-12-02 10:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-02 15:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-12-14 7:46 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2025-12-15 7:59 ` tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2025-12-01 6:46 ` [PATCH 6/6] sched/fair: Rename cfs_rq::avg_vruntime to ::sum_w_vruntime, and helper functions Ingo Molnar
2025-12-02 10:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-02 15:19 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2025-12-14 7:46 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2025-12-15 7:59 ` tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
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