From: "Marek Marczykowski-Górecki" <marmarek@invisiblethingslab.com>
To: Jason Andryuk <jason.andryuk@amd.com>
Cc: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
Oleksandr Tyshchenko <oleksandr_tyshchenko@epam.com>,
Yann Sionneau <yann.sionneau@vates.tech>,
xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] xenbus: Use .freeze/.thaw to handle xenbus devices
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2025 03:03:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aSul6qAYTSOSFJR3@mail-itl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251119224731.61497-2-jason.andryuk@amd.com>
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On Wed, Nov 19, 2025 at 05:47:29PM -0500, Jason Andryuk wrote:
> The goal is to fix s2idle and S3 for Xen PV devices.
Can you give a little more context of this? We do have working S3 in
qubes with no need for such change. We trigger it via the toolstack (libxl_domain_suspend_only()).
Are you talking about guest-initiated suspend here?
We also have kinda working (host) s2idle. You may want to take a look at this
work (some/most of it was posted upstream, but not all got
committed/reviewed):
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/6411#issuecomment-1538089344
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-linux-kernel/pull/910 (some patches
changed since that PR, see the current main too).
> A domain resuming
> from s3 or s2idle disconnects its PV devices during resume. The
> backends are not expecting this and do not reconnect.
>
> b3e96c0c7562 ("xen: use freeze/restore/thaw PM events for suspend/
> resume/chkpt") changed xen_suspend()/do_suspend() from
> PMSG_SUSPEND/PMSG_RESUME to PMSG_FREEZE/PMSG_THAW/PMSG_RESTORE, but the
> suspend/resume callbacks remained.
>
> .freeze/restore are used with hiberation where Linux restarts in a new
> place in the future. .suspend/resume are useful for runtime power
> management for the duration of a boot.
>
> The current behavior of the callbacks works for an xl save/restore or
> live migration where the domain is restored/migrated to a new location
> and connecting to a not-already-connected backend.
>
> Change xenbus_pm_ops to use .freeze/thaw/restore and drop the
> .suspend/resume hook. This matches the use in drivers/xen/manage.c for
> save/restore and live migration. With .suspend/resume empty, PV devices
> are left connected during s2idle and s3, so PV devices are not changed
> and work after resume.
Is that intended? While it might work for suspend by a chance(*), I'm
pretty sure not disconnecting + re-reconnecting PV devices across
save/restore/live migration will break them.
(*) and even that I'm not sure - with driver domains, depending on
suspend order this feels like might result in a deadlock...
> Signed-off-by: Jason Andryuk <jason.andryuk@amd.com>
> ---
> drivers/xen/xenbus/xenbus_probe_frontend.c | 4 +---
> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 3 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/xen/xenbus/xenbus_probe_frontend.c b/drivers/xen/xenbus/xenbus_probe_frontend.c
> index 6d1819269cbe..199917b6f77c 100644
> --- a/drivers/xen/xenbus/xenbus_probe_frontend.c
> +++ b/drivers/xen/xenbus/xenbus_probe_frontend.c
> @@ -148,11 +148,9 @@ static void xenbus_frontend_dev_shutdown(struct device *_dev)
> }
>
> static const struct dev_pm_ops xenbus_pm_ops = {
> - .suspend = xenbus_dev_suspend,
> - .resume = xenbus_frontend_dev_resume,
> .freeze = xenbus_dev_suspend,
> .thaw = xenbus_dev_cancel,
> - .restore = xenbus_dev_resume,
> + .restore = xenbus_frontend_dev_resume,
> };
>
> static struct xen_bus_type xenbus_frontend = {
> --
> 2.34.1
>
>
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Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
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[not found] <20251119224731.61497-1-jason.andryuk@amd.com>
2025-11-19 22:47 ` [PATCH 1/2] xenbus: Use .freeze/.thaw to handle xenbus devices Jason Andryuk
2025-11-25 8:20 ` Jürgen Groß
2025-11-25 10:47 ` Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
2025-11-30 2:56 ` Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
2025-11-26 15:00 ` Yann Sionneau
2025-12-01 17:15 ` Jason Andryuk
2025-11-30 2:03 ` Marek Marczykowski-Górecki [this message]
2025-12-01 18:20 ` Jason Andryuk
2025-12-01 22:16 ` Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
2025-12-03 22:33 ` Jason Andryuk
2025-11-19 22:47 ` [PATCH 2/2] xenbus: Rename helpers to freeze/thaw/restore Jason Andryuk
2025-11-25 9:17 ` Jürgen Groß
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