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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Carl Worth <carl@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Taehyun Noh <taehyun@utexas.edu>,
	andreyknvl@gmail.com, pcc@google.com, yeoreum.yun@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] arm64: mte: Defer disabling of TCO until user_access_begin/end
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2026 18:45:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aV_7Sm96Zf1Gfg9v@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aV_H9h-nSM1HlWnR@willie-the-truck>

On Thu, Jan 08, 2026 at 03:06:30PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2025 at 08:49:32PM -0700, Carl Worth wrote:
> > The PSTATE.TCO (Tag Checking Override) register, when set causes MTE
> > tag checking to be disabled. The TCO bit is automatically set by the
> > hardware when an exception is taken.
> > 
> > Prior to this commit, mte_disable_tco_entry would clear TCO (enable
> > tag checking) for either of two cases: 1. When the kernel wants tag
> > checking (KASAN) or 2. when userspace wants tag checking (via
> > SCTLR.TCF0).
> > 
> > In the case of userspace desired tag checking, (that is, when KASAN is
> > off), clearing TCO on entry to the kernel has negative performance
> > implications. This results in excess kernel space tag checking that
> > has not been requested.

I would have expected the hardware to avoid any tag checking if
SCTLR_EL1.TCF is 0. I guess the Arm ARM isn't entirely clear (D10.4.1
Tag Checked memory accesses), it seems to only mention TCF and TCMA with
a match-all tag for considering Unchecked accesses.

> > diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/uaccess.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/uaccess.h
> > index 1aa4ecb73429..248741a66c91 100644
> > --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/uaccess.h
> > +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/uaccess.h
> > @@ -417,11 +417,41 @@ static __must_check __always_inline bool user_access_begin(const void __user *pt
> >  {
> >  	if (unlikely(!access_ok(ptr,len)))
> >  		return 0;
> > +
> > +	/*
> > +	 * Enable tag checking for the user access if MTE is enabled
> > +	 * in the userspace task.
> > +	 *
> > +	 * Note: We don't need to do anything if KASAN is enabled,
> > +	 * since that means the tag checking override (TCO) will
> > +	 * already be disabled. In turn, the TCF0 bits will control
> > +	 * whether user-space tag checking happens .
> > +	 */
> > +	if (!kasan_hw_tags_enabled() && user_uses_tagcheck())
> > +		asm volatile(SET_PSTATE_TCO(0));
> > +
> >  	uaccess_ttbr0_enable();
> >  	return 1;
> >  }
> 
> What about all the uaccess routines that don't call user_access_begin? For
> example, copy_from_user().

We might as well ignore tag checking for all uaccess for specific
hardware. It's a relaxation but you get this with futex already and some
combination of read/write() syscalls with O_DIRECT.


Reading the Arm ARM section again, I wonder whether always setting TCMA1
does the trick for the Ampere hardware. With KASAN disabled in the
kernel, all addresses will star with 0xff... so behave as match-all. We
do this with KASAN_HW_TAGS enabled but it won't have any effect with
kasan disabled.

Carl, could you please try the patch below?

----------------8<----------------------------------------
diff --git a/arch/arm64/mm/proc.S b/arch/arm64/mm/proc.S
index 01e868116448..8b1f0de00fd3 100644
--- a/arch/arm64/mm/proc.S
+++ b/arch/arm64/mm/proc.S
@@ -48,14 +48,14 @@
 #define TCR_KASAN_SW_FLAGS 0
 #endif
 
-#ifdef CONFIG_KASAN_HW_TAGS
-#define TCR_MTE_FLAGS TCR_EL1_TCMA1 | TCR_EL1_TBI1 | TCR_EL1_TBID1
-#elif defined(CONFIG_ARM64_MTE)
+#ifdef CONFIG_ARM64_MTE
 /*
  * The mte_zero_clear_page_tags() implementation uses DC GZVA, which relies on
- * TBI being enabled at EL1.
+ * TBI being enabled at EL1. TCMA1 is needed to treat accesses with the
+ * match-all tag (0xF) as Tag Unchecked, irrespective of the SCTLR_EL1.TCF
+ * setting.
  */
-#define TCR_MTE_FLAGS TCR_EL1_TBI1 | TCR_EL1_TBID1
+#define TCR_MTE_FLAGS TCR_EL1_TCMA1 | TCR_EL1_TBI1 | TCR_EL1_TBID1
 #else
 #define TCR_MTE_FLAGS 0
 #endif

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-08 18:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-31  3:49 [PATCH 0/2] arm64: mte: Improve performance by tightening handling of PSTATE.TCO Carl Worth
2025-10-31  3:49 ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64: mte: Unify kernel MTE policy and manipulation of TCO Carl Worth
2026-01-08 15:05   ` Will Deacon
2026-01-08 16:28     ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-10-31  3:49 ` [PATCH 2/2] arm64: mte: Defer disabling of TCO until user_access_begin/end Carl Worth
2026-01-08 15:06   ` Will Deacon
2026-01-08 18:45     ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2026-01-08 23:19       ` Carl Worth
2026-01-09 11:40       ` Will Deacon
2026-01-10  5:29       ` Taehyun Noh
2026-01-10 13:02         ` Catalin Marinas
2026-01-14 20:27           ` Carl Worth

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