From: Dmytro Maluka <dmaluka@chromium.org>
To: Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
Samiullah Khawaja <skhawaja@google.com>,
iommu@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Vineeth Pillai (Google)" <vineeth@bitbyteword.org>,
Aashish Sharma <aashish@aashishsharma.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] iommu/vt-d: Clear Present bit before tearing down PASID entry
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2026 14:49:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aW-H4Qn2qV7QHeff@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <59eb3d65-0962-4523-a4c9-8e4417217a0f@linux.intel.com>
On Fri, Jan 16, 2026 at 02:06:30PM +0800, Baolu Lu wrote:
> On 1/16/26 05:35, Dmytro Maluka wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 15, 2026 at 10:45:12AM +0800, Baolu Lu wrote:
> > > On 1/14/26 19:12, Dmytro Maluka wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2026 at 01:38:13PM +0800, Baolu Lu wrote:
> > > > > On 1/14/26 03:34, Dmytro Maluka wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2026 at 11:00:47AM +0800, Lu Baolu wrote:
> > > > > > > + intel_pasid_clear_entry(iommu, dev, pasid, fault_ignore);
> > > > > > Is it safe to do this with iommu->lock already unlocked?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, it is. The PASID entry lifecycle is serialized by the iommu_group-
> > > > > > mutex in the iommu core, which ensures that no other thread can attempt
> > > > > to allocate or setup this same PASID until intel_pasid_tear_down_entry()
> > > > > has returned.
> > > > >
> > > > > The iommu->lock is held during the initial transition (P->0) to ensure
> > > > > atomicity against other hardware-table walkers, but once the P bit is
> > > > > cleared and the caches are flushed, the final zeroing of the 'dead'
> > > > > entry does not strictly require the spinlock because the PASID remains
> > > > > reserved in software until the function completes.
> > > >
> > > > Ok. Just to understand: "other hardware-table walkers" means some
> > > > software walkers, not hardware ones? Which software walkers are those?
> > > > (I can't imagine how holding a spinlock could prevent the hardware from
> > > > walking those tables. :))
> > >
> > > You are right. A spinlock doesn't stop the hardware. The spinlock
> > > serializes software threads to ensure the hardware walker always sees a
> > > consistent entry.
> > >
> > > When a PASID entry is active (P=1), other kernel paths might modify
> > > the control bits in-place. For example:
> > >
> > > void intel_pasid_setup_page_snoop_control(struct intel_iommu *iommu,
> > > struct device *dev, u32 pasid)
> > > {
> > > struct pasid_entry *pte;
> > > u16 did;
> > >
> > > spin_lock(&iommu->lock);
> > > pte = intel_pasid_get_entry(dev, pasid);
> > > if (WARN_ON(!pte || !pasid_pte_is_present(pte))) {
> > > spin_unlock(&iommu->lock);
> > > return;
> > > }
> > >
> > > pasid_set_pgsnp(pte);
> > > did = pasid_get_domain_id(pte);
> > > spin_unlock(&iommu->lock);
> > >
> > > intel_pasid_flush_present(iommu, dev, pasid, did, pte);
> > > }
> > >
> > > In this case, the iommu->lock ensures that if two threads try to modify
> > > the same active entry, they don't interfere with each other and leave
> > > the entry in a 'torn' state for the IOMMU hardware to read.
> > >
> > > In intel_pasid_tear_down_entry(), once the PASID entry is deactivated
> > > (setting P=0 and flushing caches), the entry is owned exclusively by
> > > the teardown thread until it is re-configured. That's the reason why the
> > > final zeroing doesn't need the spinlock.
> >
> > I see. Am I correct that those other code paths (modifying an entry
> > in-place) are not supposed to do that concurrently with
> > intel_pasid_tear_down_entry(), i.e. they should only do that while it is
> > guaranteed that the entry remains present? Otherwise there is a bug
> > (hence, for example, the WARN_ON in
> > intel_pasid_setup_page_snoop_control())?
>
> The iommu driver assumes that high-level software should ensure this.
>
> > So, holding iommu->lock during
> > entry teardown is not strictly necessary (i.e. we could unlock it even
> > earlier than setting P=0), i.e. holding the lock until the entry is
> > deactivated is basically just a safety measure for possible buggy code?
>
> There are other paths that may be concurrent, such as the debugfs path
> (dumping the pasid table through debugfs). Therefore, keeping iommu-
> >lock in the driver is neither redundant nor buggy.
I see, that makes sense: clearing the present bit before iommu->lock is
unlocked should prevent such read-only walkers like debugfs from trying
to further walk down the path (i.e. to page tables) after iommu->lock is
unlocked.
> Thanks,
> baolu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-20 13:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-13 3:00 [PATCH 0/3] iommu/vt-d: Ensure atomicity in context and PASID entry updates Lu Baolu
2026-01-13 3:00 ` [PATCH 1/3] iommu/vt-d: Use 128-bit atomic updates for context entries Lu Baolu
2026-01-13 19:27 ` Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-14 5:14 ` Baolu Lu
2026-01-14 10:55 ` Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-15 2:26 ` Baolu Lu
2026-01-15 13:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-14 7:54 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-15 3:26 ` Baolu Lu
2026-01-15 5:59 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-15 13:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-16 5:19 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-16 14:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-13 3:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] iommu/vt-d: Clear Present bit before tearing down PASID entry Lu Baolu
2026-01-13 19:34 ` Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-14 5:38 ` Baolu Lu
2026-01-14 11:12 ` Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-15 2:45 ` Baolu Lu
2026-01-15 21:35 ` Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-16 6:06 ` Baolu Lu
2026-01-20 13:49 ` Dmytro Maluka [this message]
2026-01-14 7:32 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-14 8:27 ` Baolu Lu
2026-01-15 5:49 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-13 3:00 ` [PATCH 3/3] iommu/vt-d: Rework hitless PASID entry replacement Lu Baolu
2026-01-13 15:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-14 6:03 ` Baolu Lu
2026-01-13 19:27 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-01-13 20:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-14 5:45 ` Baolu Lu
2026-01-14 7:26 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-14 13:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-14 18:51 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-01-14 19:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-15 5:44 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-15 13:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-16 6:16 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-13 19:39 ` Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-13 20:06 ` Dmytro Maluka
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