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From: Coiby Xu <coxu@redhat.com>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Cc: kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	 Arnaud Lefebvre <arnaud.lefebvre@clever-cloud.com>,
	Baoquan he <bhe@redhat.com>, Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>,
	 Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>,
	Pingfan Liu <kernelfans@gmail.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	 Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>,
	 open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE"
	<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64/kdump: pass dm-crypt keys to kdump kernel
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2026 18:57:23 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aW4Jq9on_4a5o5o7@Rk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260114210859.GA3197242-robh@kernel.org>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2026 at 03:08:59PM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
>On Wed, Jan 07, 2026 at 07:39:24PM +0800, Coiby Xu wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 06, 2026 at 09:44:37AM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
>> > On Fri, Dec 26, 2025 at 8:11 AM Coiby Xu <coxu@redhat.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Based on the CONFIG_CRASH_DM_CRYPT feature, this patch adds
>> > > LUKS-encrypted device dump target support to ARM64 by addressing two
>> > > challenges [1],
>> > >  - Kdump kernel may not be able to decrypt the LUKS partition. For some
>> > >    machines, a system administrator may not have a chance to enter the
>> > >    password to decrypt the device in kdump initramfs after the 1st kernel
>> > >    crashes
>> > >
>> > >  - LUKS2 by default use the memory-hard Argon2 key derivation function
>> > >    which is quite memory-consuming compared to the limited memory reserved
>> > >    for kdump.
>> > >
>> > > 1st kernel will add device tree property dmcryptkeys as similar to
>> > > elfcorehdr to pass the memory address of the stored info of dm-crypt
>> > > keys to the kdump kernel.
>> >
>> > Is there not any security issue with putting the key into the DT? The
>> > DT is provided to userspace. There's provisions already to not expose
>> > "security-*" properties to userspace (see __of_add_property_sysfs).
>> > Though I think that has a hole in that the FDT is also provided as-is.
>> > However, I don't even know who or what uses these properties.
>> >
>> > Rob
>>
>> Hi Rob,
>>
>> Thanks for raising the concern! If I understand DT correctly, this
>> property is only accessible to the kexec'ed kdump kernel. A new DT is
>> allocated and set up by of_kexec_alloc_and_setup_fdt. Btw, to be
>> precise, it's putting the memory address where the key is stored but
>> not the key itself into DT. The key is stored in the memory exclusively
>> reserved for kdump. For more info on by who and how this property will
>> used, I've created a dt-schema pull request as suggested by Krzysztof,
>> https://github.com/devicetree-org/dt-schema/pull/181
>
>Okay, that's a bit less sensitive. That still could expose a memory
>address to user space which has generally been locked down in recent
>years. Though I'm not sure we'd consider addresses of blobs passed by
>kexec sensitive or secure.
>
>>
>> And yes, there is no need for even userspace of the kdump kernel to
>> access it. So this idea of "security-*" properties/__of_add_property_sysfs
>> seems desirable. Thanks for bringing it up! I'll give it a try.
>
>Since it is just the memory address, kdump just moving the key would be
>sufficient. Or the property can be removed early on. I think we do that
>with kaslr seed IIRC.

A security-* property is still exposed to user space. I think simply
removing the property is an elegant solution! It's also much simpler
than moving the key. I did a test and somehow wiping the old memory
in read_from_oldmem_iter made it fail to read the keys. So I'll apply
your suggestion of removing the property to next version. Thanks!

>
>Rob
>

-- 
Best regards,
Coiby


      reply	other threads:[~2026-01-19 11:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-26 14:11 [PATCH] arm64/kdump: pass dm-crypt keys to kdump kernel Coiby Xu
2025-12-27 13:14 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-12-30  8:48   ` Coiby Xu
2026-01-06  6:22 ` [PATCH v2] " Coiby Xu
2026-01-06  8:05   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-01-06  8:41     ` Coiby Xu
2026-01-06 15:44 ` [PATCH] " Rob Herring
2026-01-07 11:39   ` Coiby Xu
2026-01-14 21:08     ` Rob Herring
2026-01-19 10:57       ` Coiby Xu [this message]

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