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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: lizhi2@eswincomputing.com, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	andrew+netdev@lunn.ch, davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com,
	kuba@kernel.org, robh@kernel.org, krzk+dt@kernel.org,
	conor+dt@kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com,
	mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com, alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com,
	linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ningyu@eswincomputing.com,
	linmin@eswincomputing.com, pinkesh.vaghela@einfochips.com,
	weishangjuan@eswincomputing.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] dt-bindings: ethernet: eswin: add clock sampling control
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2026 18:26:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aWKZvEW7rKFFwZLG@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00b7b42f-2f9d-402a-82f0-21641ea894a1@lunn.ch>

On Fri, Jan 09, 2026 at 07:27:54PM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> >    rx-internal-delay-ps:
> > -    enum: [0, 200, 600, 1200, 1600, 1800, 2000, 2200, 2400]
> > +    enum: [0, 20, 60, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 2400]
> >  
> >    tx-internal-delay-ps:
> > -    enum: [0, 200, 600, 1200, 1600, 1800, 2000, 2200, 2400]
> > +    enum: [0, 20, 60, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 2400]
> 
> You need to add some text to the Changelog to indicate why this is
> safe to do, and will not cause any regressions for DT blobs already in
> use. Backwards compatibility is very important and needs to be
> addressed.
> 
> > +  eswin,rx-clk-invert:
> > +    description:
> > +      Invert the receive clock sampling polarity at the MAC input.
> > +      This property may be used to compensate for SoC-specific
> > +      receive clock to data skew and help ensure correct RX data
> > +      sampling at high speed.
> > +    type: boolean
> 
> This does not make too much sense to me. The RGMII standard indicates
> sampling happens on both edges of the clock. The rising edge is for
> the lower 4 bits, the falling edge for the upper 4 bits. Flipping the
> polarity would only swap the nibbles around.

I'm going to ask a rather pertinent question. Why do we have this
eswin stuff in the kernel tree?

I've just been looking to see whether I can understand more about this,
and although I've discovered the TRM is available for the EIC7700:

https://github.com/eswincomputing/EIC7700X-SoC-Technical-Reference-Manual/releases

that isn't particularly helpful on its own.

There doesn't appear to be any device tree source files that describe
the hardware. The DT bindings that I can find seem to describe only
ethernet and USB. describe the ethernet and USB, and maybe sdhci.

I was looking for something that would lead me to what this
eswin,hsp-sp-csr thing is, but that doesn't seem to exist in our
DT binding documentation, nor does greping for "hsp.sp.csr" in
arch/*/boot/dts find anything.

So, we can't know what this "hsp" thing is to even know where to look
in the 80MiB of PDF documentation.

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-10 18:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-09  8:06 [PATCH v1 0/2] net: stmmac: eic7700: fix EIC7700 eth1 RX sampling timing lizhi2
2026-01-09  8:08 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] dt-bindings: ethernet: eswin: add clock sampling control lizhi2
2026-01-09 18:27   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-01-10 18:26     ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2026-01-11  4:05       ` Bo Gan
2026-01-12  7:05         ` 李志
2026-01-22 13:27           ` Andrew Lunn
2026-01-22 16:03             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-27  7:05             ` Min Lin
2026-01-27 13:40               ` Andrew Lunn
2026-01-12  6:00     ` 李志
2026-01-22 13:32       ` Andrew Lunn
2026-01-23  3:00         ` 李志
2026-01-23  3:19           ` Andrew Lunn
2026-01-23  7:39             ` Bo Gan
2026-01-23  9:52               ` 李志
2026-01-23 10:07               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-01-23 10:47                 ` Bo Gan
2026-01-23 19:43                   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-01-24  4:57                     ` Bo Gan
2026-01-26  3:10                       ` Min Lin
2026-01-26 18:29                         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-27  6:14                           ` Min Lin
2026-01-28  2:38                             ` Bo Gan
2026-01-28  5:48                               ` Min Lin
2026-02-03  6:06                                 ` Min Lin
2026-02-03 13:16                                   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-01-28 10:05                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-01-29  2:01                     ` Bo Gan
2026-01-09  8:09 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] net: stmmac: eic7700: enable clocks before syscon access and correct RX sampling timing lizhi2
2026-01-09 18:31   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-01-12  6:55     ` 李志

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