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From: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Fushuai Wang <fushuai.wang@linux.dev>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, brauner@kernel.org,
	 cyphar@cyphar.com, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, hpa@zytor.com,
	jack@suse.cz,  kees@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org, luto@kernel.org,
	 mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, mhiramat@kernel.org,
	mingo@redhat.com,  peterz@infradead.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	tglx@kernel.org, vmalik@redhat.com,  wangfushuai@baidu.com,
	x86@kernel.org, yury.norov@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/6] uaccess: Add copy_from_user_nul helper
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2026 15:40:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aWUWBfKhP8DvzhDl@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260112132238.GDaWT1ntPxY8VD1hlH@fat_crate.local>

On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 02:22:38PM +0100, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 08:22:36PM +0800, Fushuai Wang wrote:
> > > strncpy_from_user() succeeds even if userspace data does not contain a
> > > nul. Then it reads length bytes.
> > 
> > Yes, but if there is no NUL byte in the user buf, whether you use
> > strncpy_from_user() or copy_from_user(), you need to manually add
> > a '\0' in the kernel buf to ensure it is properly NUL-terminated.
> 
> This looks like a bunch of churn to save a "= \0" line.
> 
> The more important question, IMO, would be whether there are cases in the
> kernel which *miss* a NUL termination, audit them and fix them.
> 
> That'll give you a better idea whether such a *_nul() helper is even needed.
> 
> Because converting only a handful of obvious places in the face of thousands
> of copy_from_user() invocations in the kernel is not doing anything useful.

I'm getting the impression that strncpy_from_user() is the real problem
here. It should append a nul byte.

That would also be a lot less error-prone than the suggested new API.
Requiring a length of N+1 is not the most immediately-obvious API.

Alice

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-12 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-12  7:30 [PATCH v2 0/6] uaccess: Introduce copy_from_user_nul helper Fushuai Wang
2026-01-12  7:30 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] uaccess: Add " Fushuai Wang
2026-01-12  9:23   ` Alice Ryhl
2026-01-12 10:00     ` Fushuai Wang
2026-01-12 11:20       ` Alice Ryhl
2026-01-12 12:22         ` Fushuai Wang
2026-01-12 13:22           ` Borislav Petkov
2026-01-12 15:40             ` Alice Ryhl [this message]
2026-01-12 16:28               ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-12 16:37                 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-01-13 18:00   ` Yury Norov
2026-01-13 18:17     ` Yury Norov
2026-01-16  8:42     ` Fushuai Wang
2026-01-12  7:30 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] x86/tlb: Use copy_from_user_nul() instead of copy_from_user() Fushuai Wang
2026-01-12  7:30 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] tracing: " Fushuai Wang
2026-01-12 15:43   ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-13 17:05   ` Yury Norov
2026-01-13 18:03     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-12  7:30 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] userns: " Fushuai Wang
2026-01-12  7:30 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] time: " Fushuai Wang
2026-01-12  7:30 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] kstrtox: " Fushuai Wang

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