From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Vishal Annapurve <vannapurve@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 11/24] KVM: x86/mmu: Introduce kvm_split_cross_boundary_leafs()
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2026 10:02:41 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aW_DQafZNMQN5-gS@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGtprH9OWFJc=_T=rChSjhJ3utPNcV_L_+-zq5uqtmXm-ffgNQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Jan 20, 2026, Vishal Annapurve wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2026 at 3:39 PM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 15, 2026, Kai Huang wrote:
> > > static int __kvm_tdp_mmu_split_huge_pages(struct kvm *kvm,
> > > struct kvm_gfn_range *range,
> > > int target_level,
> > > bool shared,
> > > bool cross_boundary_only)
> > > {
> > > ...
> > > }
> > >
> > > And by using this helper, I found the name of the two wrapper functions
> > > are not ideal:
> > >
> > > kvm_tdp_mmu_try_split_huge_pages() is only for log dirty, and it should
> > > not be reachable for TD (VM with mirrored PT). But currently it uses
> > > KVM_VALID_ROOTS for root filter thus mirrored PT is also included. I
> > > think it's better to rename it, e.g., at least with "log_dirty" in the
> > > name so it's more clear this function is only for dealing log dirty (at
> > > least currently). We can also add a WARN() if it's called for VM with
> > > mirrored PT but it's a different topic.
> > >
> > > kvm_tdp_mmu_gfn_range_split_cross_boundary_leafs() doesn't have
> > > "huge_pages", which isn't consistent with the other. And it is a bit
> > > long. If we don't have "gfn_range" in __kvm_tdp_mmu_split_huge_pages(),
> > > then I think we can remove "gfn_range" from
> > > kvm_tdp_mmu_gfn_range_split_cross_boundary_leafs() too to make it shorter.
> > >
> > > So how about:
> > >
> > > Rename kvm_tdp_mmu_try_split_huge_pages() to
> > > kvm_tdp_mmu_split_huge_pages_log_dirty(), and rename
> > > kvm_tdp_mmu_gfn_range_split_cross_boundary_leafs() to
> > > kvm_tdp_mmu_split_huge_pages_cross_boundary()
> > >
> > > ?
> >
> > I find the "cross_boundary" termininology extremely confusing. I also dislike
> > the concept itself, in the sense that it shoves a weird, specific concept into
> > the guts of the TDP MMU.
> >
> > The other wart is that it's inefficient when punching a large hole. E.g. say
> > there's a 16TiB guest_memfd instance (no idea if that's even possible), and then
> > userpace punches a 12TiB hole. Walking all ~12TiB just to _maybe_ split the head
> > and tail pages is asinine.
> >
> > And once kvm_arch_pre_set_memory_attributes() is dropped, I'm pretty sure the
> > _only_ usage is for guest_memfd PUNCH_HOLE, because unless I'm misreading the
> > code, the usage in tdx_honor_guest_accept_level() is superfluous and confusing.
> >
> > For the EPT violation case, the guest is accepting a page. Just split to the
> > guest's accepted level, I don't see any reason to make things more complicated
> > than that.
> >
> > And then for the PUNCH_HOLE case, do the math to determine which, if any, head
> > and tail pages need to be split, and use the existing APIs to make that happen.
>
> Just a note: Through guest_memfd upstream syncs, we agreed that
> guest_memfd will only allow the punch_hole operation for huge page
> size-aligned ranges for hugetlb and thp backing. i.e. the PUNCH_HOLE
> operation doesn't need to split any EPT mappings for foreseeable
> future.
Oh! Right, forgot about that. It's the conversion path that we need to sort out,
not PUNCH_HOLE. Thanks for the reminder!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-20 18:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 127+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-06 10:16 [PATCH v3 00/24] KVM: TDX huge page support for private memory Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:18 ` [PATCH v3 01/24] x86/tdx: Enhance tdh_mem_page_aug() to support huge pages Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 21:08 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-07 9:12 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-07 16:39 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-08 19:05 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-08 19:24 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-09 16:21 ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-01-09 3:08 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-09 18:29 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-12 2:41 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-13 16:50 ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-01-14 1:48 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:18 ` [PATCH v3 02/24] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrapper tdh_mem_page_demote() Yan Zhao
2026-01-16 1:00 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-16 8:35 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-16 11:10 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-16 11:22 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-19 6:18 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-19 6:15 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-16 11:22 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-19 5:55 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-28 22:49 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-06 10:19 ` [PATCH v3 03/24] x86/tdx: Enhance tdh_phymem_page_wbinvd_hkid() to invalidate huge pages Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:19 ` [PATCH v3 04/24] x86/tdx: Introduce tdx_quirk_reset_folio() to reset private " Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:20 ` [PATCH v3 05/24] x86/virt/tdx: Enhance tdh_phymem_page_reclaim() to support " Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:20 ` [PATCH v3 06/24] KVM: x86/mmu: Disallow page merging (huge page adjustment) for mirror root Yan Zhao
2026-01-15 22:49 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 7:54 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-26 16:08 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-27 3:40 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-28 19:51 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-06 10:20 ` [PATCH v3 07/24] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Introduce split_external_spte() under write mmu_lock Yan Zhao
2026-01-28 22:38 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-06 10:20 ` [PATCH v3 08/24] KVM: TDX: Enable huge page splitting " Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:21 ` [PATCH v3 09/24] KVM: x86: Reject splitting huge pages under shared mmu_lock in TDX Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:21 ` [PATCH v3 10/24] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Alloc external_spt page for mirror page table splitting Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:21 ` [PATCH v3 11/24] KVM: x86/mmu: Introduce kvm_split_cross_boundary_leafs() Yan Zhao
2026-01-15 12:25 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-16 23:39 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-19 1:28 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-19 8:35 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-19 8:49 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-19 10:11 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-19 10:40 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-19 11:06 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-19 12:32 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-29 14:36 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-20 17:51 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-22 6:27 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-20 17:57 ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-01-20 18:02 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-01-22 6:33 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-29 14:51 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-06 10:21 ` [PATCH v3 12/24] KVM: x86: Introduce hugepage_set_guest_inhibit() Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:22 ` [PATCH v3 13/24] KVM: TDX: Honor the guest's accept level contained in an EPT violation Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:22 ` [PATCH v3 14/24] KVM: Change the return type of gfn_handler_t() from bool to int Yan Zhao
2026-01-16 0:21 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 6:42 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:22 ` [PATCH v3 15/24] KVM: x86: Split cross-boundary mirror leafs for KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:22 ` [PATCH v3 16/24] KVM: guest_memfd: Split for punch hole and private-to-shared conversion Yan Zhao
2026-01-28 22:39 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-06 10:23 ` [PATCH v3 17/24] KVM: TDX: Get/Put DPAMT page pair only when mapping size is 4KB Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:23 ` [PATCH v3 18/24] x86/virt/tdx: Add loud warning when tdx_pamt_put() fails Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:23 ` [PATCH v3 19/24] KVM: x86: Introduce per-VM external cache for splitting Yan Zhao
2026-01-21 1:54 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-21 17:30 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-21 19:39 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-21 23:01 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-22 7:03 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-22 7:30 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-22 7:49 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-22 10:33 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-06 10:23 ` [PATCH v3 20/24] KVM: TDX: Implement per-VM external cache for splitting in TDX Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:23 ` [PATCH v3 21/24] KVM: TDX: Add/Remove DPAMT pages for the new S-EPT page for splitting Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:24 ` [PATCH v3 22/24] x86/tdx: Add/Remove DPAMT pages for guest private memory to demote Yan Zhao
2026-01-19 10:52 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-19 11:11 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:24 ` [PATCH v3 23/24] x86/tdx: Pass guest memory's PFN info to demote for updating pamt_refcount Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:24 ` [PATCH v3 24/24] KVM: TDX: Turn on PG_LEVEL_2M Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 17:47 ` [PATCH v3 00/24] KVM: TDX huge page support for private memory Vishal Annapurve
2026-01-06 21:26 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-06 21:38 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-06 22:04 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-06 23:43 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-07 9:03 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-08 20:11 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-09 9:18 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-09 16:12 ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-01-09 17:16 ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-01-09 18:07 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-12 1:39 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-12 2:12 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-12 19:56 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-13 6:10 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-13 16:40 ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-01-14 9:32 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-07 19:22 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-07 20:27 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-12 20:15 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-14 0:33 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-14 1:24 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-14 9:23 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-14 15:26 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-14 18:45 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-15 3:08 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-15 18:13 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-01-14 18:56 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-15 0:19 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 15:45 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-16 16:31 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 16:58 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-19 5:53 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-30 15:32 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-02-03 9:18 ` Yan Zhao
2026-02-09 17:01 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 16:57 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-16 17:14 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 17:45 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-16 19:59 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 22:25 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-15 1:41 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-15 16:26 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 0:28 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 11:25 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-16 14:46 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-19 1:25 ` Yan Zhao
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