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From: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
To: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
Cc: "Lyude Paul" <lyude@redhat.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Viresh Kumar" <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	"FUJITA Tomonori" <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>,
	"Krishna Ketan Rai" <prafulrai522@gmail.com>,
	"Tamir Duberstein" <tamird@gmail.com>,
	"Xiangfei Ding" <dingxiangfei2009@gmail.com>,
	"Zhi Wang" <zhiw@nvidia.com>,
	"Matthew Maurer" <mmaurer@google.com>,
	"Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 7/8] rust: Introduce iosys_map bindings
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2026 15:36:03 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aWkJYyNds5zWpgYE@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DFOP5BY09539.AFY5L5FV1HNV@kernel.org>

On Thu, Jan 15, 2026 at 12:21:51AM +0100, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> (Cc: Zhi, Matt, Alex)
> 
> On Tue Dec 2, 2025 at 11:03 PM CET, Lyude Paul wrote:
> > This introduces a set of bindings for working with iosys_map in rust code.
> > The design of this is heavily based off the design for both the io and
> > dma_map bindings for Rust.
> 
> I already had a chat with Lyude about this, but also want to post it here. I
> have mainly two comment on this:
> 
>   (1) The backing memory of iosys_map may be a device resource and hence has to
>       be protected against (bus) device / driver unbind.
> 
>   (2) The idea for the generic I/O infrastructure is to support arbitrary I/O
>       backends rather than only MMIO. For instance, this can also be PCI
>       configuration space, I2C, SPI, etc., but also DMA, VRAM, system memory,
>       etc.
> 
>       For this, there is a patch series from Zhi [1] splitting up the current
>       I/O structures into traits that we will land soon.
> 
>       We will also have macros analogous to dma_read!() and dma_write!() for the
>       generic I/O infrastructure, which Matt also works on for his QC SoC
>       driver.
> 
>       This will allow us to unify all kinds of I/O operations into a single
>       interface, supporting the read!() and write!() accessors for values, the
>       register!() macro and raw accessors, such as e.g. read32().
> 
>       With this we will have something that is way more powerful than iosys_map
>       and makes this abstraction obsolete.

The trait approach generally requires knowing the target type at
compile-time or paying dynamic function calls, but my understanding is
that iosys exists because you might not know which variant you want at
compile-time.

Perhaps we need an

	enum Iosys {
	    SystemMemory(...),
	    DmaMemory(...),
	}

and implement Io for Iosys in terms of the inner types.

Alice

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-01-15 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-02 22:03 [PATCH v6 0/8] Rust bindings for gem shmem + iosys_map Lyude Paul
2025-12-02 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 1/8] rust/drm: Add gem::impl_aref_for_gem_obj! Lyude Paul
2025-12-02 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 2/8] rust: helpers: Add bindings/wrappers for dma_resv_lock Lyude Paul
2025-12-06 13:42   ` Janne Grunau
2025-12-02 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 3/8] rust: drm: gem: Add raw_dma_resv() function Lyude Paul
2025-12-02 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 4/8] rust: gem: Introduce DriverObject::Args Lyude Paul
2025-12-06 13:46   ` Janne Grunau
2025-12-02 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 5/8] rust: drm: gem: shmem: Add DRM shmem helper abstraction Lyude Paul
2026-02-02 15:30   ` Boris Brezillon
2025-12-02 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 6/8] rust: drm: gem: Introduce shmem::SGTable Lyude Paul
2025-12-02 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 7/8] rust: Introduce iosys_map bindings Lyude Paul
2025-12-06 15:58   ` Janne Grunau
2026-01-14 23:21   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-15  0:12     ` Daniel Almeida
2026-01-15 15:36     ` Alice Ryhl [this message]
2026-02-06 22:01       ` lyude
2025-12-02 22:03 ` [PATCH v6 8/8] rust: drm/gem: Add vmap functions to shmem bindings Lyude Paul
2025-12-06 16:12 ` [PATCH v6 0/8] Rust bindings for gem shmem + iosys_map Janne Grunau

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