From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Kernel Mailing List, Linux" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] x86, fpu/kvm: fix crash with AMX
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2026 09:12:54 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aWkgFv_allv34JYY@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260115170511.GFaWkeR1TuFMlzy2LJ@fat_crate.local>
On Thu, Jan 15, 2026, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2026 at 08:39:51AM -0800, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > : 1. vCPU loads non-init XTILE data without ever setting XFD to a non-zero value
> > : (KVM only disables XFD interception on writes with a non-zero value).
> > : 2. Guest executes WRMSR(MSR_IA32_XFD) to set XFD[18] = 1
> > : 3. VM-Exit due to the WRMSR
> > : 4. Host IRQ arrives and triggers kernel_fpu_begin()
> > : 5. save_fpregs_to_fpstate() saves guest FPU with XFD[18]=0
> > : 6. fpu_update_guest_xfd() stuffs guest_fpu->fpstate->xfd = XFD[18]=1
> > : 7. vcpu_enter_guest() attempts to load XTILE data with XFD[18]=1
>
> I don't know, maybe I'm missing an important aspect but if not, I'm wondering
> how you folks are not seeing the big honking discrepancy here.
>
> *Anything* poking in MSRs under the kernel's feet where the kernel doesn't
> know about that poking, is bound to cause trouble. And this is no exception.
KVM isn't poking the MSR, KVM is literally calling a kernel API, fpu_update_guest_xfd(),
to ask/tell the kernel to update the guest's XFD. It's the FPU code that's buggy,
because it doesn't ensure the state _it_ saved _without KVM's knowledge_ is
consistent with new XFD.
> Step 5. above should use the updated XFD[18]=1. The guest just disabled that
> state! Anything else is bonkers.
As I explained in my previous reply, that's easier said than done:
In theory we could ensure KVM saved exactly what is resident in hardware, but
that's quite tricky (and costly!) as it would require doing xfd_update_state()
before _every_ save_fpregs_to_fpstate(), e.g. not just in fpu_swap_kvm_fpstate().
E.g. if the host kernel used the FPU from IRQ context (spoiler alert!), then KVM
wouldn't have a chance to swap in the maximal XFD[18]=0 value (i.e. the userspace
task's XFD).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-15 17:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-01 9:05 [PATCH v2 0/4] x86, fpu/kvm: fix crash with AMX Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-01 9:05 ` [PATCH 1/4] x86/fpu: Clear XSTATE_BV[i] in save state whenever XFD[i]=1 Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-03 2:06 ` Yao Yuan
2026-01-05 17:31 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-06 5:25 ` Yao Yuan
2026-01-06 0:54 ` Jim Mattson
2026-01-06 1:17 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-06 17:56 ` Jim Mattson
2026-01-15 16:07 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-15 16:12 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-15 16:27 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-07 0:28 ` Chang S. Bae
2026-01-07 22:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-08 3:06 ` Binbin Wu
2026-01-08 16:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-15 15:54 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-15 16:22 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-15 18:19 ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-15 18:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-15 23:43 ` Chang S. Bae
2026-01-01 9:05 ` [PATCH 2/4] selftests: kvm: replace numbered sync points with actions Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-06 0:02 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-07 22:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-08 20:26 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-01 9:05 ` [PATCH 3/4] selftests: kvm: try getting XFD and XSAVE state out of sync Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-01 9:05 ` [PATCH 4/4] selftests: kvm: Verify TILELOADD actually #NM faults when XFD[18]=1 Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-06 1:18 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] x86, fpu/kvm: fix crash with AMX Sean Christopherson
2026-01-15 12:22 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-01-15 13:49 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-15 16:39 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-15 17:05 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-01-15 17:12 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-01-16 12:22 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-01-21 11:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-22 11:12 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-01-22 12:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-01-23 13:23 ` Borislav Petkov
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