From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pandora.armlinux.org.uk (pandora.armlinux.org.uk [78.32.30.218]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F25B50095D; Sat, 17 Jan 2026 20:50:33 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=78.32.30.218 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1768683036; cv=none; b=fqkjkOM6xGjjeASJo2T3P90XvncsosIlI5HvgZcm8Xvus6LmZg0lRPhJ145UwsJGT6hhL/YEpYDCLpN1v826k/PFd44+eVFZrCsqh4S9ARlfGPK2XnjhqrbnnO8lo4ziqu5s/jj6iR3JTDwycjSyZhKC3nu+PQjKlbW+hth9Mzk= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1768683036; c=relaxed/simple; bh=8+Lt0wHLkliFfdDrOmERdcOPvey2slepLAS2y6g+wgQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=O1sfxcRpPigtY0kIN2iuqsq8MQ5g80c3fmSc1IsBw1OXLhpa7vT2cnxieW8vU+ctew8CZ1B+2onP2R6CfIT0R11raPCbISwD1KItM01F1TN46K1KouUwM7GfRGjv4lL2j7E15VQOdU1Wmt85dZD8JRKBpF7Yyu/z4jIuLFg0ABY= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=armlinux.org.uk; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=armlinux.org.uk; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=armlinux.org.uk header.i=@armlinux.org.uk header.b=EO2einq2; arc=none smtp.client-ip=78.32.30.218 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=armlinux.org.uk Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=armlinux.org.uk Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=armlinux.org.uk header.i=@armlinux.org.uk header.b="EO2einq2" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=armlinux.org.uk; s=pandora-2019; h=Sender:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=9K2q75TKsNQCCs0lg/uHM2KXv09DFsFaURV+ZH8P+68=; b=EO2einq2klJGAwNNhJjvj1IXTL 4pBBGcLQGnH94dj5/DeZi9pSplhB6mWcVUVm6HV182w3OiIzKlWv6oBPaj0p45JxFI7+e0+LEJT1E yB6erLonGANWgkRKUMeVyu8y7a/vBQcmc+oCIInQbjMCMO3gzW9xawsizLRGV4t2LmBI0PTXvCum9 ZADTMQFJqHWssgBEdS1ry6kn1LT4RSuPRiVLsG3ZNol+oyd8aJ5ySqIh98fL0Nyed7wfXeyv+bp0o gaRLRSqJaXMILyFC+ofbOFk9KmGqtRVtTS3JHe2sGgpNGBrBqtMexbRogqukk3RktssuQBMi9oyyu mu21r6Jg==; Received: from shell.armlinux.org.uk ([fd8f:7570:feb6:1:5054:ff:fe00:4ec]:58372) by pandora.armlinux.org.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.98.2) (envelope-from ) id 1vhDFS-000000003nQ-1xJL; Sat, 17 Jan 2026 20:50:18 +0000 Received: from linux by shell.armlinux.org.uk with local (Exim 4.98.2) (envelope-from ) id 1vhDFL-000000004tu-0qW1; Sat, 17 Jan 2026 20:50:11 +0000 Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2026 20:50:11 +0000 From: "Russell King (Oracle)" To: Jakub Kicinski Cc: Maxime Chevallier , Tao Wang , alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com, andrew+netdev@lunn.ch, davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, horms@kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com Subject: Re: [PATCH net v2] net: stmmac: fix transmit queue timed out after resume Message-ID: References: <6a946edc-297e-469a-8d91-80430d88f3e5@bootlin.com> <51859704-57fd-4913-b09d-9ac58a57f185@bootlin.com> <3a93c79e-f755-4642-a3b0-1cce7d0ea0ef@bootlin.com> <20260117090634.26148eb4@kernel.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20260117090634.26148eb4@kernel.org> Sender: Russell King (Oracle) On Sat, Jan 17, 2026 at 09:06:34AM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote: > Letting switches generate pause is > a recipe for.. not having a network. We'd need to figure out why Netgear > does what it does in your case, IMHO. ... because they're dumb consumer switches. Also, the correct term is "a notwork" :D -- RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/ FTTP is here! 80Mbps down 10Mbps up. Decent connectivity at last!