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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org, jani.nikula@linux.intel.com,
	anisse@astier.eu, oleksandr@natalenko.name,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@kernel.org>,
	Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	Jacopo Mondi <jacopo.mondi@ideasonboard.com>,
	Ricardo Ribalda <ribalda@chromium.org>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] media: Virtual camera driver
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2026 22:35:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aX-4-gTM9vf03iCp@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260201200649.GW3374091@killaraus>

On Sun, Feb 01, 2026 at 10:06:49PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 01, 2026 at 09:04:00PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 01, 2026 at 08:20:11PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > On Sun, Feb 01, 2026 at 03:33:38PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > > > vcam is a DMA-BUF backed virtual camera driver capable of creating video
> > > > capture devices to which data can be streamed through /dev/vcam after
> > > > calling VCAM_IOC_CREATE. Frames are pushed with VCAM_IOC_QUEUE and recycled
> > > > with VCAM_IOC_DEQUEUE.
> > > > 
> > > > Zero-copy semantics are supported for shared DMA-BUF between capture and
> > > > output.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
> > > > ---
> > > > Early feedback e.g., is this completely in wrong direction? V4L2 world
> > > > is relatively alien world, and thus I need a sanity check ;-)
> > > 
> > > We already have multiple virtual drivers, including vivid and vimc.
> > > Could you please explain the rationale for yet another one, and why the
> > > new features it provides (if any) can't be added to existing drivers ?
> > 
> > There is a notable user base for v4l2-loopback. It is the defacto choice
> > for streaming phone cams.
> 
> This will then likely face the same hurdles as v4l2-loopback, the main
> one being that camera support should be upstreamed with proper drivers
> instead of a closed-source userspace daemon.
> 
> For phone cameras, the way forward upstream is libcamera. Until kernel
> drivers for ISPs are available, the soft ISP is a stop-gap solution. It
> recently gained GPU acceleration support (with work to improve image
> quality with additional algorithms ongoing).

That might have some weight as a pro but the unarguable con is that at
the same time this policy retains a base of tainted kernels in the wild.

Not saying that this weight more but it is important to remark this
fact.

> 
> > The motivation here is to provide a service optimized for that use and
> > purpose. It's virtual but non-generic i.e. not aimed for testing/emulation.
> > 
> > > >  .../driver-api/media/drivers/index.rst        |    1 +
> > > >  .../driver-api/media/drivers/vcam.rst         |   16 +
> > > >  MAINTAINERS                                   |    8 +
> > > >  drivers/media/Kconfig                         |   13 +
> > > >  drivers/media/Makefile                        |    1 +
> > > >  drivers/media/vcam.c                          | 1700 +++++++++++++++++
> > > >  include/uapi/linux/vcam.h                     |  124 ++
> > > >  7 files changed, 1863 insertions(+)
> > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/driver-api/media/drivers/vcam.rst
> > > >  create mode 100644 drivers/media/vcam.c
> > > >  create mode 100644 include/uapi/linux/vcam.h
> 
> [snip]
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Laurent Pinchart

BR, Jarkko

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-02-01 20:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-01 13:33 [RFC PATCH] media: Virtual camera driver Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-02-01 18:20 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-01 19:04   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-02-01 20:06     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-01 20:14       ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2026-02-01 20:21         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-02-01 20:26           ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2026-02-01 23:17             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-02-01 23:17               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-02-01 23:25               ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2026-02-02  1:02                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-02-02  7:16                   ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2026-02-02 11:41                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-02  9:05                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-02-02  9:19                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-02-02 11:43                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-02 11:36                   ` Gergo Koteles
2026-02-02 11:40                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-02 11:45                       ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2026-02-03  1:23                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-03 14:38                           ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2026-02-03 14:53                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-03 20:36                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-03 21:39                                 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2026-02-03 21:49                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-03 20:49                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-01 20:22         ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-01 20:27           ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2026-02-01 20:41             ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-01 20:35       ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2026-02-01 20:54         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-02-01 21:09           ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-02  1:44             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-02-01 21:01         ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-01 22:03           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-02-03  9:50       ` Jani Nikula
2026-02-03 15:06         ` Laurent Pinchart

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