From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org, jani.nikula@linux.intel.com,
anisse@astier.eu, oleksandr@natalenko.name,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@kernel.org>,
Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
Jacopo Mondi <jacopo.mondi@ideasonboard.com>,
Ricardo Ribalda <ribalda@chromium.org>,
open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] media: Virtual camera driver
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2026 22:35:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aX-4-gTM9vf03iCp@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260201200649.GW3374091@killaraus>
On Sun, Feb 01, 2026 at 10:06:49PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 01, 2026 at 09:04:00PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 01, 2026 at 08:20:11PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > On Sun, Feb 01, 2026 at 03:33:38PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > > > vcam is a DMA-BUF backed virtual camera driver capable of creating video
> > > > capture devices to which data can be streamed through /dev/vcam after
> > > > calling VCAM_IOC_CREATE. Frames are pushed with VCAM_IOC_QUEUE and recycled
> > > > with VCAM_IOC_DEQUEUE.
> > > >
> > > > Zero-copy semantics are supported for shared DMA-BUF between capture and
> > > > output.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
> > > > ---
> > > > Early feedback e.g., is this completely in wrong direction? V4L2 world
> > > > is relatively alien world, and thus I need a sanity check ;-)
> > >
> > > We already have multiple virtual drivers, including vivid and vimc.
> > > Could you please explain the rationale for yet another one, and why the
> > > new features it provides (if any) can't be added to existing drivers ?
> >
> > There is a notable user base for v4l2-loopback. It is the defacto choice
> > for streaming phone cams.
>
> This will then likely face the same hurdles as v4l2-loopback, the main
> one being that camera support should be upstreamed with proper drivers
> instead of a closed-source userspace daemon.
>
> For phone cameras, the way forward upstream is libcamera. Until kernel
> drivers for ISPs are available, the soft ISP is a stop-gap solution. It
> recently gained GPU acceleration support (with work to improve image
> quality with additional algorithms ongoing).
That might have some weight as a pro but the unarguable con is that at
the same time this policy retains a base of tainted kernels in the wild.
Not saying that this weight more but it is important to remark this
fact.
>
> > The motivation here is to provide a service optimized for that use and
> > purpose. It's virtual but non-generic i.e. not aimed for testing/emulation.
> >
> > > > .../driver-api/media/drivers/index.rst | 1 +
> > > > .../driver-api/media/drivers/vcam.rst | 16 +
> > > > MAINTAINERS | 8 +
> > > > drivers/media/Kconfig | 13 +
> > > > drivers/media/Makefile | 1 +
> > > > drivers/media/vcam.c | 1700 +++++++++++++++++
> > > > include/uapi/linux/vcam.h | 124 ++
> > > > 7 files changed, 1863 insertions(+)
> > > > create mode 100644 Documentation/driver-api/media/drivers/vcam.rst
> > > > create mode 100644 drivers/media/vcam.c
> > > > create mode 100644 include/uapi/linux/vcam.h
>
> [snip]
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Laurent Pinchart
BR, Jarkko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-01 20:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-01 13:33 [RFC PATCH] media: Virtual camera driver Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-02-01 18:20 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-01 19:04 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-02-01 20:06 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-01 20:14 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2026-02-01 20:21 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-02-01 20:26 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2026-02-01 23:17 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-02-01 23:17 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-02-01 23:25 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2026-02-02 1:02 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-02-02 7:16 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2026-02-02 11:41 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-02 9:05 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-02-02 9:19 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-02-02 11:43 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-02 11:36 ` Gergo Koteles
2026-02-02 11:40 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-02 11:45 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2026-02-03 1:23 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-03 14:38 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2026-02-03 14:53 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-03 20:36 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-03 21:39 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2026-02-03 21:49 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-03 20:49 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-01 20:22 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-01 20:27 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2026-02-01 20:41 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-01 20:35 ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2026-02-01 20:54 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-02-01 21:09 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-02 1:44 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-02-01 21:01 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-01 22:03 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-02-03 9:50 ` Jani Nikula
2026-02-03 15:06 ` Laurent Pinchart
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