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From: "Coly Li" <colyli@fnnas.com>
To: "Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: "Stephen Zhang" <starzhangzsd@gmail.com>,
	 "Kent Overstreet" <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>,
	 "Sasha Levin" <sashal@kernel.org>,
	 "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
	<linux-bcache@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "zhangshida" <zhangshida@kylinos.cn>
Subject: Re: Fwd: [PATCH v2] bcache: use bio cloning for detached device requests
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2026 09:34:01 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aXAoi9wTa7VWUiPj@studio.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <322136ff-95f6-49f6-9126-05845f25b4e8@kernel.dk>

On Tue, Jan 20, 2026 at 08:01:52AM +0800, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 1/20/26 7:46 AM, Coly Li wrote:
> >> @@ -949,6 +950,11 @@ static int bcache_device_init(struct
> >> bcache_device *d, unsigned int block_size,
> >>                         BIOSET_NEED_BVECS|BIOSET_NEED_RESCUER))
> >>                 goto out_ida_remove;
> >>
> >> +       if (bioset_init(&d->bio_detach, 4,
> > 					^^^^^-> I feel 4 might be a bit small
> > here. bio_detached set is for normal IO when backing device is not
> > attached to a cache device. I would suggest to set the pool size to
> > 128 or 256.
> 
> Absolutely not, 4 is more than plenty. The pool elements are only ever
> used if allocations fail, to guarantee forward progress. Setting aside
> 128 or 256 for that case is utterly wasteful, you only need a couple. 4
> is a good number, if anything it should be smaller (2).

Hi Jens,

Thanks for the information. Please correct me if I am wrong for the following
text,
- If the backing is a normal SSD raid0, the IOPS without attached cache device
might be more than thousands. In this case, I assume 128 or 256 might be more
tolerant.
- I see what ‘4’ means, just not sure/comfortable when memory pressure is high.
And reserving 128/256 will occupy around 0.5~1MB memory, I feel such extra
memory is acceptable in bcache use case.

Don't get me wrong, I totally trust you. If '4' works well enough for high
memory pressure condition for detached bcache device, it is cool.

Thanks in advance.

Coly Li

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-21  1:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20260120023535.9109-1-zhangshida@kylinos.cn>
2026-01-20  2:39 ` Fwd: [PATCH v2] bcache: use bio cloning for detached device requests Stephen Zhang
2026-01-20  2:48   ` Stephen Zhang
2026-01-20  6:53   ` Fwd: " Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-20 14:46   ` Coly Li
2026-01-20 15:01     ` Jens Axboe
2026-01-21  1:34       ` Coly Li [this message]
2026-01-21 11:55         ` Stephen Zhang
2026-01-21 14:50           ` Jens Axboe
2026-01-22  3:39             ` Coly Li
2026-01-21 22:48         ` Fwd: " Kent Overstreet

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