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From: Stanislav Fomichev <stfomichev@gmail.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Bobby Eshleman <bobbyeshleman@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@google.com>,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>,
	Neal Cardwell <ncardwell@google.com>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>,
	Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Donald Hunter <donald.hunter@gmail.com>,
	Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@fomichev.me>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, asml.silence@gmail.com,
	matttbe@kernel.org, skhawaja@google.com,
	Bobby Eshleman <bobbyeshleman@meta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v10 4/5] net: devmem: document NETDEV_A_DMABUF_AUTORELEASE netlink attribute
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2026 20:07:11 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aXGib0OcNdHTLyZN@mini-arch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260121194615.33dc0812@kernel.org>

On 01/21, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2026 19:25:27 -0800 Bobby Eshleman wrote:
> > > > That is correct, neither is true. If the two sockets share a binding the
> > > > kernel doesn't care which socket received the token or which one
> > > > returned it. No token <> socket association. There is no
> > > > queued-but-not-read race either. If any tokens are not returned, as long
> > > > as all of the binding references are eventually released and all sockets
> > > > that used the binding are closed, then all references will be accounted
> > > > for and everything cleaned up.  
> > >
> > > Naming is hard, but I wonder whether the whole feature wouldn't be
> > > better referred to as something to do with global token accounting
> > > / management? AUTORELEASE makes sense but seems like focusing on one
> > > particular side effect.  
> > 
> > Good point. The only real use case for autorelease=on is for backwards
> > compatibility... so I thought maybe DEVMEM_A_DMABUF_COMPAT_TOKEN
> > or DEVMEM_A_DMABUF_COMPAT_DONTNEED would be clearer?
> 
> Hm. Maybe let's return to naming once we have consensus on the uAPI.
> 
> Does everyone think that pushing this via TCP socket opts still makes
> sense, even tho in practice the TCP socket is just how we find the
> binding?

I'm not a fan of the existing cmsg scheme, but we already have userspace
using it, so getting more performance out of it seems like an easy win?

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-22  4:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-16  5:02 [PATCH net-next v10 0/5] net: devmem: improve cpu cost of RX token management Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-16  5:02 ` [PATCH net-next v10 1/5] net: devmem: rename tx_vec to vec in dmabuf binding Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-16  5:02 ` [PATCH net-next v10 2/5] net: devmem: refactor sock_devmem_dontneed for autorelease split Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-16  5:02 ` [PATCH net-next v10 3/5] net: devmem: implement autorelease token management Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-21  1:00   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-21  5:33     ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-22  4:15   ` Mina Almasry
2026-01-22  5:18     ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-16  5:02 ` [PATCH net-next v10 4/5] net: devmem: document NETDEV_A_DMABUF_AUTORELEASE netlink attribute Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-21  0:36   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-21  5:44     ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-22  1:35       ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-22  2:37         ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-22  2:50           ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-22  3:25             ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-22  3:46               ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-22  4:07                 ` Stanislav Fomichev [this message]
2026-01-27  1:26                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-27  2:30                     ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-27  2:44                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-27  3:06                         ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-27  3:43                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-27  3:50                             ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-16  5:02 ` [PATCH net-next v10 5/5] selftests: drv-net: devmem: add autorelease tests Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-21  1:07 ` [PATCH net-next v10 0/5] net: devmem: improve cpu cost of RX token management Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-21  5:29   ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-22  1:37     ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-22  4:21   ` Mina Almasry
2026-01-26 18:45     ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-27  1:31       ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-27  6:00         ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-01-27  6:48           ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-30 11:13             ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-05  3:48               ` Jens Axboe

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