From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
Ignat Korchagin <ignat@cloudflare.com>,
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
Petr Pavlu <petr.pavlu@suse.com>,
Daniel Gomez <da.gomez@kernel.org>,
Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>,
"Jason A . Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>,
linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, keyrings@vger.kernel.org,
linux-modules@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 02/12] pkcs7: Allow the signing algo to calculate the digest itself
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2026 13:46:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aXSxI9dxfAJ0tj14@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1501916.1768998695@warthog.procyon.org.uk>
On Wed, Jan 21, 2026 at 12:31:35PM +0000, David Howells wrote:
> Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> > I'd use the wording you used already in commit message, which
> > factors more descriptive than what you have here. E.g., name
> > it "external_digest".
>
> ML-DSA uses "external" to mean that the caller does the
> digestion/hashing/XOF-ing/whatever Eric wants to call it, but the caller also
> has to put other stuff into the digest/hash/XOF/thing that then gets passed to
> ML-DSA if it does this.
>
> For added confusion, the NIST FIPS tests seem to consider what this patch does
> as 'external' but an "external mu" as 'internal':
>
> "tgId": 1,
> "testType": "AFT",
> "parameterSet": "ML-DSA-44",
> "signatureInterface": "external",
> "preHash": "pure",
>
> vs:
>
> "tgId": 7,
> "testType": "AFT",
> "parameterSet": "ML-DSA-44",
> "signatureInterface": "internal",
> "externalMu": true,
>
> I haven't come up with a better name that particularly describes this. Maybe
> use "no_prehash" or "algo_takes_hash" or "algo_takes_data"?
>
> Maybe better than using a true/false value, use an enum?
>
> enum public_key_hash {
> ALGO_SIGNS_HASH, /* RSA, ECDSA, ... */
> ALGO_SIGNS_DATA, /* MLDSA, ... */
> };
I think this would be better idea, as it makes the states more explicit.
And I was actually considering to suggest enum so yeah, I'm on board
with this suggestion.
>
> David
>
BR, Jarkko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-24 11:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-20 14:50 [PATCH v13 00/12] x509, pkcs7, crypto: Add ML-DSA and RSASSA-PSS signing David Howells
2026-01-20 14:50 ` [PATCH v13 01/12] crypto: Add ML-DSA crypto_sig support David Howells
2026-01-20 17:37 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-01-20 20:52 ` Eric Biggers
2026-01-20 14:50 ` [PATCH v13 02/12] pkcs7: Allow the signing algo to calculate the digest itself David Howells
2026-01-20 17:53 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-01-21 12:31 ` David Howells
2026-01-24 11:46 ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2026-01-20 21:12 ` Eric Biggers
2026-01-23 11:37 ` David Howells
2026-01-20 14:50 ` [PATCH v13 03/12] pkcs7: Allow direct signing of data with ML-DSA David Howells
2026-01-20 14:50 ` [PATCH v13 04/12] pkcs7, x509: Add ML-DSA support David Howells
2026-01-20 21:17 ` Eric Biggers
2026-01-20 14:50 ` [PATCH v13 05/12] modsign: Enable ML-DSA module signing David Howells
2026-01-20 21:38 ` Eric Biggers
2026-01-21 14:21 ` David Howells
2026-01-20 14:50 ` [PATCH v13 06/12] crypto: Add supplementary info param to asymmetric key signature verification David Howells
2026-01-20 14:50 ` [PATCH v13 07/12] crypto: Add RSASSA-PSS support David Howells
2026-01-20 22:41 ` Eric Biggers
2026-01-20 23:15 ` David Howells
2026-01-20 23:36 ` Eric Biggers
2026-01-21 8:11 ` Ignat Korchagin
2026-01-21 2:14 ` Eric Biggers
2026-01-21 8:15 ` Ignat Korchagin
2026-01-20 14:50 ` [PATCH v13 08/12] pkcs7, x509: " David Howells
2026-01-20 14:50 ` [PATCH v13 09/12] modsign: Enable RSASSA-PSS module signing David Howells
2026-01-20 14:50 ` [PATCH v13 10/12] pkcs7: Add FIPS selftest for RSASSA-PSS David Howells
2026-01-20 14:50 ` [PATCH v13 11/12] x509, pkcs7: Limit crypto combinations that may be used for module signing David Howells
2026-01-20 18:31 ` Ignat Korchagin
2026-01-20 18:54 ` David Howells
2026-01-20 21:51 ` Vitaly Chikunov
2026-01-20 23:18 ` David Howells
2026-01-20 22:14 ` Eric Biggers
2026-01-20 14:50 ` [PATCH v13 12/12] pkcs7: Add ML-DSA FIPS selftest David Howells
2026-01-20 17:54 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-01-20 17:55 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-01-20 21:43 ` Eric Biggers
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