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From: Yury Norov <ynorov@nvidia.com>
To: Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Joel Fernandes" <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Yury Norov" <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
	"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"Alistair Popple" <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	"Timur Tabi" <ttabi@nvidia.com>, "Edwin Peer" <epeer@nvidia.com>,
	"Eliot Courtney" <ecourtney@nvidia.com>,
	"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	"Dirk Behme" <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>,
	"Steven Price" <steven.price@arm.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] rust: add `bitfield!` macro
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2026 13:05:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aXpP2l9Gr0XOfSEn@yury> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DG0A8B4DUBDB.2NT25Q8SZOHT7@nvidia.com>

On Wed, Jan 28, 2026 at 11:12:27PM +0900, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
> On Wed Jan 28, 2026 at 2:27 PM JST, Yury Norov wrote:

 <snip>

> >> > Then let's implement it better. Can you comment why the suggested API
> >> > doesn't work for you?
> >> >
> >> >         color.set(blue, 10);
> >> >         color.get(blue);
> >> >
> >> > I think it should solve the problem with name clashing.
> >> 
> >> That syntax cannot be implemented as it is written. What type is `blue` here?
> >
> > 'blue' has no type because it is not a variable but keyword. We do
> > such things in C all the time:
> >
> >         DEFINE_FREE(kfree, void *, if (_T) kfree(_T))
> >                     ^^^^^
> >                     keyword that becomes a part of cleanup function name
> >
> > And in another email I seemingly do similar thing for python_init!()
> > macro in rust to pick the right constructor.
> 
> Yup, and we could do the same in Rust with a macro, but your example
> above was not macro code (macros are always ending with a `!`).

color.set!(blue, 10) is equally good, if it helps.

If someone will point to the excessive use of macros, you're safe to
ignore it. This is the very basic fundamental type, and I believe that
it brings enough attention and expertise to make it safe.

> >> The closest we could get would be a macro, that would look like
> >> 
> >>     bitfield_set!(color, blue, 10);

Or maybe bitfield_set!(color.blue, 10), but the above looks more natural.
Is it possible to make it color.blue = 10 by any chance?

Again (and again) - usability and readability is a king, and I'm glad
we're moving toward the right direction.

> >> And beyond the scenes it would call some more intricate (and unsightly)
> >> machinery. I'd rather define the constraints clearly for users - they
> >> are not so drastic.
> >  
> > But that would not be chainable, I guess. I recall, Joel said it's an
> > important feature for some reason.
> 
> We could make the macros return the modified bitfield, which would make
> them chainable. And the bitfield-englobing macro you proposed in your
> other email could also reduce the need to do so anyway.
> 
> >
> >> > Can you share more about the other potential users?
> >> 
> >> I know Joel is using bitfield for page table structures, but there are
> >> of course many others. Basically any structure with fields defined as a
> >> subset of its bits is a candidate. Registers just happen to be bitfields
> >> with extra properties for I/O.
> >
> > OK. Can I take a look at how bitfields are used there?
> 
> Check out these patches:
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260120204303.3229303-10-joelagnelf@nvidia.com/
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260120204303.3229303-12-joelagnelf@nvidia.com/
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260120204303.3229303-13-joelagnelf@nvidia.com/
> 
> But be aware that they use the `bitfield!` macro of nova-core, this one
> doesn't use `Bounded` yet.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-28 18:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-20  6:17 [PATCH 0/6] rust: add `bitfield!` and `register!` macros Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-20  6:17 ` [PATCH 1/6] rust: num: add `shr` and `shl` methods to `Bounded` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-20  8:44   ` Alice Ryhl
2026-01-20 12:53     ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-20 16:12   ` kernel test robot
2026-01-21  8:15   ` Yury Norov
2026-01-21 10:10     ` Alice Ryhl
2026-01-20  6:17 ` [PATCH 2/6] rust: num: add `as_bool` method to `Bounded<_, 1>` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-20  8:45   ` Alice Ryhl
2026-01-20  6:17 ` [PATCH 3/6] rust: add `bitfield!` macro Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-20 11:45   ` Dirk Behme
2026-01-20 12:37     ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-01-20 12:47       ` Dirk Behme
2026-01-20 13:08         ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-01-20 13:20           ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-20 21:02             ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-01-20 12:51     ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-21  9:16   ` Yury Norov
2026-01-26 13:35     ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-27  2:55       ` Yury Norov
2026-01-27  3:25         ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-27  4:49           ` Yury Norov
2026-01-27 10:41             ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-27 10:55               ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-01-28  5:27               ` Yury Norov
2026-01-28 14:12                 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28 18:05                   ` Yury Norov [this message]
2026-01-29 13:40                     ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-29 15:12                       ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-01-27 11:00             ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-27 15:02           ` Gary Guo
2026-01-28  1:23             ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28  4:33               ` Yury Norov
2026-01-28 14:02                 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28 18:12                   ` Yury Norov
2026-01-27  9:57         ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-27 21:03           ` John Hubbard
2026-01-27 21:10             ` Gary Guo
2026-01-27 21:22               ` John Hubbard
2026-01-28  1:28               ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28  1:41                 ` John Hubbard
2026-01-20  6:17 ` [PATCH 4/6] rust: bitfield: Add KUNIT tests for bitfield Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-20  6:17 ` [PATCH 5/6] rust: io: add `register!` macro Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-20  6:17 ` [PATCH FOR REFERENCE 6/6] gpu: nova-core: use the kernel `register!` and `bitfield!` macros Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 0/6] rust: add `bitfield!` and `register!` macros Miguel Ojeda
2026-01-20 13:38   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-20 13:50     ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-01-20 14:18       ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-20 14:57         ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-01-20 15:27           ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-20 15:48             ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-01-20 20:01               ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-20 20:31                 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-01-21  5:57                   ` Yury Norov
2026-01-21  6:55                     ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-26 14:03                     ` Joel Fernandes

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