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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Rick P Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
Cc: "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 07/16] x86/virt/tdx: Add tdx_alloc/free_page() helpers
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2026 11:09:44 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aXuweFnbPhoG4Jbk@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9096e7a47742f4a46a7f400aac467ac78e1dfe50.camel@intel.com>

On Thu, Jan 29, 2026, Rick P Edgecombe wrote:
> On Wed, 2026-01-28 at 17:19 -0800, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > Honestly, the entire scheme is a mess.  Four days of staring at this
> > and I finally undertand what the code is doing.  The whole "struct
> > tdx_module_array_args" union is completely unnecessary, the resulting
> > args.args crud is ugly, having a pile of duplicate accessors is
> > brittle, the code obfuscates a simple concept, and the end result
> > doesn't provide any actual protection since the kernel will happily
> > overflow the buffer after the WARN.
> 
> The original sin for this, as was spotted by Nikilay in v3, is actually
> that it turns out that the whole variable length thing was intended to
> give the TDX module flexibility *if* it wanted to increase it in the
> future. As in it's not required today. Worse, whether it would actually
> grow in the specific way the code assumes is not covered in the spec.
> Apparently it was based on some past internal discussions. So the
> agreement on v3 was to just support the fixed two page size in the
> spec.

Heh, I was _this_ close to suggesting we add a compile-time assert on the incoming
size of the array (and effective regs array), with a constant max size supported
by the kernel.  It wouldn't eliminate the array shenanigans, but it would let us
make them more or less bombproof.

> Yea it could probably use another DEFINE or two to make it less error
> prone. Vanilla DPAMT has 4 instances of rdx.

For me, it's not just a syntax problem.  It's the approach of getting a pointer
to the middle of structure and then doing a memcpy() at a later point in time.
More below.

> What you have here is close to what I had done when I first took this
> series. But it ran afoul of FORTIFY_SOUCE and required some horrible
> casting to trick it. I wonder if this code will hit that issue too.

AFAICT, FORTIFY_SOURCE doesn't complain.

> Dave didn't like the solution and suggested the union actually:
> https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/355ad607-52ed-42cc-9a48-63aaa49f4c68@intel.com/#t

What you proposed is fundamentally quite different than what I'm proposing.  I'm
not complaining about the union, I'm complaining about providing a helper to grab
a pointer to the middle of a struct and then open coding memcpy() calls using
that pointer.  I find that _extremely_ difficult to grok, because it does a poor
job of capturing the intent (copy these values to this sequence of registers).

The decouple pointer+memcpy() approach also bleeds gory details about how PAMT
pages are passed in multiple args throughout all SEAMCALL APIs that have such
args.  I want the APIs to not have to care about the underlying mechanics of how
PAMT pages are copied from an array to registers, e.g. so that readers of the
code can focus on the semantics of the SEAMCALL and the pieces of logic that are
unique to each SEAMCALL.

In other words, I see the necessity for a union as being a symptom of the flawed
approach.

> I'm aware of your tendency to dislike union based solutions. But since
> this was purely contained to tip, I went with Dave's preference.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-29 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-21  0:51 [PATCH v4 00/16] TDX: Enable Dynamic PAMT Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-21  0:51 ` [PATCH v4 01/16] x86/tdx: Move all TDX error defines into <asm/shared/tdx_errno.h> Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-25 22:30   ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-25 22:44     ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-26 23:15       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-26 23:14     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-21  0:51 ` [PATCH v4 02/16] x86/tdx: Add helpers to check return status codes Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-24  8:56   ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-24 19:31     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-25 23:07   ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-26 23:26     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-21  0:51 ` [PATCH v4 03/16] x86/virt/tdx: Simplify tdmr_get_pamt_sz() Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-24  9:26   ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-24 19:47     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-25  1:27       ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-21  0:51 ` [PATCH v4 04/16] x86/virt/tdx: Allocate page bitmap for Dynamic PAMT Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-25  1:50   ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-26 17:56     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-12-24  9:10   ` Xu Yilun
2026-01-05 22:06     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-06  4:01       ` Xu Yilun
2026-01-06 17:00         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-07  6:01           ` Xu Yilun
2026-01-07 14:41             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-08 12:53               ` Xu Yilun
2026-01-08 16:52                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-09  2:18                   ` Xu Yilun
2026-01-09 16:05                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-12  0:24                       ` Xu Yilun
2025-11-21  0:51 ` [PATCH v4 05/16] x86/virt/tdx: Allocate reference counters for PAMT memory Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-21  0:51 ` [PATCH v4 06/16] x86/virt/tdx: Improve PAMT refcounts allocation for sparse memory Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-25  3:15   ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-26 20:47     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-27 15:57       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-01 22:14         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-26 14:45   ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-26 20:47     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-27  7:36       ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-12-11  0:07         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-27 16:04       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-11-21  0:51 ` [PATCH v4 07/16] x86/virt/tdx: Add tdx_alloc/free_page() helpers Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-25  8:09   ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-26 22:28     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-29  1:19       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-29 17:18         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-29 19:09           ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-01-29 19:12             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-26  1:21   ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-26 22:28     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-27 12:29   ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-12-01 22:31     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-27 16:11   ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-12-01 22:39     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-12-02  7:38       ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-12-02 20:02         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-12-03 13:46           ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-03 13:48             ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-12-03 15:41               ` Dave Hansen
2025-12-03 18:15                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-12-03 18:21                   ` Dave Hansen
2025-12-03 19:59                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-12-03 20:13                       ` Dave Hansen
2025-12-03 21:39                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-12-03 21:40                           ` Dave Hansen
2025-12-08  9:15   ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-08 20:27     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-16 23:17   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 23:25     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-16 23:40     ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-21  0:51 ` [PATCH v4 08/16] x86/virt/tdx: Optimize " Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-21  0:51 ` [PATCH v4 09/16] KVM: TDX: Allocate PAMT memory for TD control structures Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-25  9:11   ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-21  0:51 ` [PATCH v4 10/16] KVM: TDX: Allocate PAMT memory for vCPU " Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-25  9:14   ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-21  0:51 ` [PATCH v4 11/16] KVM: TDX: Add x86 ops for external spt cache Rick Edgecombe
2026-01-17  0:53   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-19  2:31     ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-20  8:42       ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-20  9:18         ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-20 10:00           ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-20 19:53     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-21 22:12       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-21 22:34         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-21  0:51 ` [PATCH v4 12/16] x86/virt/tdx: Add helpers to allow for pre-allocating pages Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-26  3:40   ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-26  5:21     ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-26 22:33     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-27  2:38       ` Binbin Wu
2026-01-20  7:10         ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-20  7:46           ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-20  8:01             ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-17  1:02   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-21  0:52   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-21  0:58     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-21  0:51 ` [PATCH v4 13/16] KVM: TDX: Handle PAMT allocation in fault path Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-26  5:56   ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-26 22:33     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-21  0:51 ` [PATCH v4 14/16] KVM: TDX: Reclaim PAMT memory Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-26  8:53   ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-26 22:58     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-21  0:51 ` [PATCH v4 15/16] x86/virt/tdx: Enable Dynamic PAMT Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-21  0:51 ` [PATCH v4 16/16] Documentation/x86: Add documentation for TDX's " Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-26 10:33   ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-26 20:05     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-24 20:18 ` [PATCH v4 00/16] TDX: Enable " Sagi Shahar
2025-11-25 20:19 ` Vishal Annapurve

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